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Mecca 04-25-2019 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14227329)
Lotta studies on what corporal punishment does to childrens minds as they develop. Most of it isn't good.

Touchy subject for sure.
I'll say this about the topic, do I think kids deserve an ass smack at times, yes.

But on the list of things that I think have made new generations disrespectful and self entitled, I'd probably put it on a list but it'd be close to the bottom. I think there are way more things in society that cause this behavior now.

I'd actually like to see some studies on those things...

notorious 04-25-2019 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14227369)
For life? Damn he didn’t die.

For all we know it could have been his wife and Hill isn’t about to snitch her out.

It would be hard for me to snitch on my wife, it’s gang gang fam.
If my wife was habitually beating our children I wouldn’t have a second thought about turning her in.

The only right thing to do with an abuser is to get the kids away from them as fast as possible.

I am loyal to her, and I love her, but I am not letting her **** up my kids. Thank goodness I’ll never have to make this decision though. She’s wonderful.

BigRedChief 04-25-2019 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 14227348)
IMO giving a kid a spanking is, at times needed. But most of the time it's a lazy way to discipline your child.
Giving a pre-K child a swat on the butt for dispensary reasons is not abuse. But, that aint what Hill did or knew that was taking place.


Come on, most on here got their fair share of smarts. If it was someone other than Hill that did this, the family would have threw them under the bus. His $100 million payday that was coming is family generational changing money. Thats a lot motivation. Especially when you mesh that with the mentality that I got beat as a kid and I turned out alright.

Mecca 04-25-2019 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14227376)
Seems to be a common approach by investigators these days doesn't it.
Court of perception and public opinion seems to matter most...while we aren't charging him lets quickly make this into how he's really guilty we just can't do anything.

stumppy 04-25-2019 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 14227377)
And for someone to come on a site as this and say "a friend of mine says..." …….is total bullshit and should be treated as such!
Way to misconstrue what was posted.......dumb****.

Mecca 04-25-2019 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14227380)
If my wife was habitually beating our children I wouldn’t have a second thought about turning her in.

The only right thing to do with an abuser is to get the kids away from them as fast as possible.

I am loyal to her, and I love her, but I am not letting her **** up my kids. Thank goodness I’ll never have to make this decision though. She’s wonderful.
The thing is, a lot of the environment you are from plays into that.

tmax63 04-25-2019 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14227369)
For life? Damn he didn’t die.

For all we know it could have been his wife and Hill isn’t about to snitch her out.

It would be hard for me to snitch on my wife, it’s gang gang fam.
Actually this is what I believe as well but the "people with knowledge" have gotten it to the point that the child was beaten, broke his arm, had welts and bruises and God knows what other abuse.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-25-2019 08:14 AM
IF it is true and until it comes from a LEGIT source...

notorious 04-25-2019 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14227386)
The thing is, a lot of the environment you are from plays into that.
No doubt.

The cycle must be broken.

Simply Red 04-25-2019 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 14227377)
And for someone to come on a site as this and say "a friend of mine says..." …….is total bullshit and should be treated as such!
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IowaHawkeyeChief 04-25-2019 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14227374)
So, the DA says the parents abused the child and presents evidence that the child was abused. Do we know that it was the parents? Is the 3yr old talking? Who is going up on the stand to say that they did it?

One can deduce that when a kid is abused it's probably the parents, but is that going to hold up in a criminal court of law? This is why you'll invariably find that there are a lot more cases of children removed from abusive homes than parents formally charged with abuse.

No, I'm saying if the abuse was as bad as stated, they should press charges on both parents and get to the bottom of it, the DA was ambiguous in his briefing and many folks, including radio personalities are reading much more into this case with ambiguous statements. From what I understand there were different family members alone and in complete control of the child over several periods of time as well, so you don't know if it was the parents or another close family member. That's why it doesn't make logical sense in a high profile case like this to charge the parents.

stumppy 04-25-2019 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14227381)
Giving a pre-K child a swat on the butt for dispensary reasons is not abuse. But, that aint what Hill did or knew that was taking place.


Come on, most on here got their fair share of smarts. If it was someone other than Hill that did this, the family would have threw them under the bus. His $100 million payday that was coming is family generational changing money. Thats a lot motivation. Especially when you mesh that with the mentality that I got beat as a kid and I turned out alright.
I wasn't pointing at Hill with that post. It's just my opinion on discipline in general.

In58men 04-25-2019 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 14227387)
Actually this is what I believe as well but the "people with knowledge" have gotten it to the point that the child was beaten, broke his arm, had welts and bruises and God knows what other abuse.
They know how did it that’s probably obvious, but some families stick together even in the shittiest situations.

I mean, it would be extremely hard for me to snitch on my wife. Terrible situation for sure.

srvy 04-25-2019 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 14227255)
I don't think photos are out there to leak, at least not yet, but there's definitely more to come. And from what I've been told, some stories are coming today.

I've heard pretty similar to what Duncan laid out above. But what I was told last night (no new abuse news but some actual proof) is that we should probably plan on drafting a WR this year.

And I have to agree with whoever above posted about what a shitty position he has put the Chiefs in with this whole fiasco. After being given a second chance, after seeing what happened to Hunt. And none of that even rises to the level of importance that a freaking THREE year old child is the center of this story. Not that it would be any better if the kid was 8-9, but a 3 year old makes me give even less two shits about what happens to Reek.
Proof? If they had proof that joke of a news conference would have been about an arrest and description of charges.

Like it or not no charges, if they really believed they had a case you dont quit investigating. You keep digging gathering information till you have something to charge on. Like it or not they are innocent till proven guilty. As detestable as child abuse is its not worth turning the rule of law upside down and go back to the days of frontier justice.

BigRedChief 04-25-2019 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14227389)
No doubt.

The cycle must be broken.
Which is exactly what I chose. Just because I turned out alright doesn't justify abuse of kids by parents.


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