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KC_Connection 08-20-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17064961)
Cherry picking some numbers to make it seem better than it is. He's only pitched 12.1 innings for the Blue Jays and has a 57 LOB% with a xFIP of 4.37. Jordan Hicks has pitched about the same for the Blue Jays, he just doesn't have the fortune to have a .125 BABIP like Cabrera.

You think a low BABIP against is entirely a product of luck in baseball? Seems like an odd position to take.

KC_Connection 08-20-2023 11:19 AM

2023 Genesis Cabrera as a Cardinal: 10.69 K9, 5.06 BB9, 1.69 HR9, 5.06 ERA, 5.02 FIP, 4.37 xFIP
2023 Genesis Cabrera as a Jay: 7.30 K9, 1.46 BB9, 0.00 HR9, 0.00 ERA, 2.37 FIP, 4.37 xFIP

Now it might all just be such a small sample size as to mean nothing in the end, but he's definitely throwing more strikes now than he ever has and that may be a direct result of the Jays changing his pitch mix (to throw more sinkers).

DJ's left nut 08-20-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17065055)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drew Rom is being called up and will start tomorrow against the Pirates<br><br>He&#39;s been electric at Memphis since arriving:<br><br>-0.82 ERA<br>-43.9 K%<br>-9.8 BB%<br><br>Here he is K&#39;ing top prospect Coby Mayo<br><br>Glad to see the team opting to test young talent at this stage in the season<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> <a href="https://t.co/GAfwW5zM8V">pic.twitter.com/GAfwW5zM8V</a></p>&mdash; Adam Akbani (@AdamAkbani) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamAkbani/status/1693296973476974660?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good for Rom.

And it makes sense - he'd already been called up for Baltimore even though he didn't pitch for them. So the option year was already used; might as well have him ride the shuttle a bit and see what he has.

But he'll get to shake the 'Phantom Player' label -- guys that technically made the big leagues but never saw the field.

I haven't seen anything to suggest he's legit, really. Stuff is okay, but he must hide it pretty well. That Norfolk Tides squad he locked up last time out is legit; probably the best minor league team around.

Can't hurt to see what he can do, though my expectations are pretty subdued. I'd also like to see Kloff get a shot but I'm not sure if he's on the 40 or if he'd need to be added to be protected from the Rule 5. For him, protecting the option year may be more important than anything. No sense in torching an option in a lost season, especially for a guy who may end up more of a reliever that goes up and down for a few seasons.

oldandslow 08-20-2023 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17065088)
Good for Rom.

And it makes sense - he'd already been called up for Baltimore even though he didn't pitch for them. So the option year was already used; might as well have him ride the shuttle a bit and see what he has.

But he'll get to shake the 'Phantom Player' label -- guys that technically made the big leagues but never saw the field.

I haven't seen anything to suggest he's legit, really. Stuff is okay, but he must hide it pretty well. That Norfolk Tides squad he locked up last time out is legit; probably the best minor league team around.

Can't hurt to see what he can do, though my expectations are pretty subdued. I'd also like to see Kloff get a shot but I'm not sure if he's on the 40 or if he'd need to be added to be protected from the Rule 5. For him, protecting the option year may be more important than anything. No sense in torching an option in a lost season, especially for a guy who may end up more of a reliever that goes up and down for a few seasons.

Certainly don't have anything to lose. Hope he does really well.

Marco Polo 08-20-2023 03:52 PM

I'm going to the game tomorrow at Pittsburgh so I get to see Rom up close. This will probably be the last Cardinals game I see in person this year so for my sake, hope they win tomorrow and lose the rest of the year to put pressure on the front office and also get a better draft pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-20-2023 05:49 PM

Sounds like Carlson is out for the year. What a rat bum.

Ocotillo 08-20-2023 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 17065599)
Sounds like Carlson is out for the year. What a rat bum.

Not enough barrels. Not enough line drives.

BigRedChief 08-20-2023 07:41 PM

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This warms my heart. On hall of fame day. All red coasters in attendance. Ceremonies etc. the fans sent their feelings to Dewitt and Mo. wonder if they will listen?

BigRedChief 08-20-2023 07:49 PM

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4th inning

Ocotillo 08-20-2023 08:00 PM

I think part of it is the team's sucky performance, the other part of it was the heat. Hundred degree day with 115 heat index in St. Louis today.

ChiefsCountry 08-20-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17065743)
This warms my heart. On hall of fame day. All red coasters in attendance. Ceremonies etc. the fans sent their feelings to Dewitt and Mo. wonder if they will listen?

115 degree heat index this afternoon

BigRedChief 08-21-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17065887)
115 degree heat index this afternoon

I'm going with fan disapproval of the front office.:rolleyes:

seclark 08-21-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17066073)
I'm going with fan disapproval of the front office.:rolleyes:

Yeah, **** those guys.
I ain’t sweating my nuggets off for 20 minutes of watching great players stand around and perspire, then watch 9 innings of losing coached baseball.
They can blow that out their ass.
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DJ's left nut 08-21-2023 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17066073)
I'm going with fan disapproval of the front office.:rolleyes:

It's both.

If they were playing quality baseball, you'd have at least 30k people in there regardless of the heat.

VAChief 08-21-2023 05:16 PM

Edman in center again! I know we are short handed, but wouldn’t it make sense to move TON over there and play Burleson in LF? Put Tommy at second.

He deserves to be a scapegoat, and I think that will happen if they finish last. Won’t matter, becsuse Mo will pick another stooge.


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