It really wasn't even close. **** I would have rather thrown it to the backstop as that pitch.

I just think you have to go to Dotel there, even if for only Napoli.

We had one of these games in each of the first two rounds. Game 3 against Hamels was maddening because he wasn't that good and we routinely let him off the hook. Same with Game 4 of the LCS against Wolf.

There was just no way we were winning this game with this zone. This cocksucking ump is giving him 8 inches inside and six inches outside.

Over-exaggerate a bit more. Holland has been hitting the black all game, which technically isn't a strike in the rule book but its routinely given, and the Cardinals hitters have been swinging at breaking balls in the dirt.

That strike zone is an embrassment to have in the World Series.

Yep. It was bound to happen.

I was really hoping we could sweek this one out tonight (still time left) with carp going tomorrow night.

Go look at that strike 2 call to Berkman, the first K of Freese, and then take a big step back and literally **** your own face.

Hard t be patient when the ump is giving six inches inside

You bitching about a called strike that was confirmed on the k-zone is comical.

I feel like he has been inconsistent with both sides. I thought he squeezed Jackson a little bit.

I dunno if it's because I didn't really watch the postseason intently last season or what, but the umpiring in this years playoffs has been mediocre at best.

Strike 2 dumb ****.

Pretty much every PO game I have watched has been absurd bad.

I don't remember ever seeing shit strike zones this bad for this long.

And in the POs no less.

Really sent Boggs back out.

Saving the pen for the rest of the series at this point.

Well just use up Boggs so I don't have to see him again the rest of the way

Speaking of comical, where was your dumb ass when the Cardinals outscored the Chiefs offense last night?

WTF Westbrook? TLR saving scrabble and Dotel for tommorrow night?

Watching the game? You think I'm a Texas fan or something?

Let me guess. The only people watching the game were posting on CP. Right?... ****ing reerun.

It's the right move at this point. We have about a 2% chance of winning this game. Save your best relievers for a winnable game. Yes, we should have brought a good option in during the 6th, but that's a sunk cost now. Pitch Boggs til his UCL is a piece of dental floss.

It's funny that you managed to drag your dumb **** ass in here only when the Cardinals are losing.

Again, the person who can't differentiate two from three has no right calling anyone a reerun, even Kyle Boller.

I'm on here because there was a Chiefs game today and I haven't closed my laptop moron.

Someone only bringing up 2 ****ing pitches complaining about a strike zone should probably stop watching baseball. Holland has dominated the game so far. Grow the **** up.

That's funny I guess you weren't on here last night during the Cards game.

It's not just those two pitches, anyone who has watched the game has seen him get both outside and inside. You can get one, you can't get both. I shouldn't need to explain this to you, but since you're still in counting mode, I guess I'll lower my expectations.

... He's been around the plate all game with belt high stuff you ****ing cry baby. You are going to get those calls. He wasn't throwing ankle high shit like Jackson.

Cry a river.

You did it backwards, Boggs.

Ya the ump has been giving a liberal strike zone, so Boggs decides to hang a nice juicy one in the middle. Damn you Boggs.

Jackson was the one elevating, moron, that's why he kept getting fly ball outs and Holland has gotten so many GBs. You seriously know nothing about baseball, , you were around but conveniently mute about the goings on last night, shut the **** up, get out, and go slide in a urinal trough with the rest of your lovable losers in Wrigleyville

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My team got out pitched today! I'm gonna go cry myself to sleep because it will make me feel better!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

MOM?!?! Can you put my bottle of milk in the microwave?!

A Cubs fan posting in a Cards thread during the WS makes sense.

Not like there has EVER been a Cubs WS thread.

I'm rooting for the Cards. The rest of my family are Cards fans. And I can post where I want.

That's some quality smack right there and a hell of a refutation. It has the legs of Ron Santo.

I don't think anyone is saying Holland isn't pitching great tonight you tard. But he has benefited from a wide zone.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

What a ****ing joke of a zone. That's the same pitch that was a strike to Berkman.

That was a nice play by Punto.

If Feliz gets that outside pitch. It's not even worth trying.

I'm excited to see Feliz. He probably mows us down, but he has problems finding the zone at times. Maybe he can walk us into a rally.

Welp...

Holland is out and Holland's dad calls strike one at the shoelaces.

Hey maybe Kulpa is just trying to establish that he's merely terrible not favoring one team over the other. :P Absolute abortion of a game called by him behind the plate, stuff six inches off the plate is a strike.

Kulpa walks out to the mound:

"Son, you've made me proud tonight. Don't forget to call your mother after the press conference."

Holland faught like hell trying to let him to stay in

Now watch it be a really tight zone tomorrow

Take two strikes, Craig.

Jesus Christ, Officer Drebin, why don't you ****ing moonwalk too?

A homer means nothing, Albert, just get on base.

Nothing against Pujols, but... first pitch swinging?

WTF Strike was that 2nd pitch

TAKE TWO STRIKES, MATT

This is a case of a team who is trained to not swing at balls vs a free swinging team with a crazy ass shit strike zone.

Keep fighting off those good pitches.

Damn damn damn.

Of course Holliday K's in pressure situations.

Holliday isn't really doing shit in the WS. A couple base hits spread around.


Oh well. We need Carp to be a bulldog tomorrow night.

WTF Strike was that 2nd pitch

Holliday has always been an empty calorie guy for us. I just don't remember him ever having a big hit in a pressure situation for us.

Amebas are smarter than Boggs on his best day.

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Wow has Derek holland had some inside pitches ... Like these balls r way out and he's getting them .. Holy .. Some r 2 and half balls in .

Pretty terrible strike zone tonight as Brett Lawrie alludes to. That Mike Napoli HR was massive, though. This is turning into one of the best WS's in a while.

As a Canadian and a Blue Jay, it's obvious that Lawrie is a Cardinal homer.

Maybe he just hates the Brewers organization and cheers for their enemies.

PitchFX indicates that he had 8 pitches that were called strikes that should have been balls. That can change a game, all right.

Link?

did they fire LaRussa after the game or...?

He wasn't behind the plate.

Jesus Christ.

What would you think of automated strike zones? The technology is there to do something like that, but it would completely change the way the game is played.

didn't watch a lick of the game, I'll be honest

I went and had 12 beers watching the Chiefs and passed out for a few hours...so I have no rebuttal

Thats a fireable job performance.

lol

the fix is in!

lol

the fix is in!

It needs to happen. The "human element" argument is bullshit. Guys like Glavine were, IMO, incredibly overrated because they were able to live six inches off the plate but get the call due to their reputation.

I am starting to lean this way. If you really look at it makes the most sense.

And three strikes called balls apparently

Shows what you could see, that he gave them the inside and didn't give it to you. I did think he was pretty bad. Although when one is around the plate and the other isn't this crap happens. The one on Holliday was insane. Holland made a point of coming inside and the ump gave it to him.

Haven't been able to read this thread for a day plus. Was starting Carpenter today and game 7 out of the question or just because you were up in the series? Would only be 3 days rest both times and I am no expert on how Carpenter pitches on short rest. Couldn't ask for much more from Jackson even with the walks.

Even with what happened, you were one bad bitch and any offense from leading the game. Texas still hasn't shown to me that they have grabbed control of anything. The team of destiny I was worried I would see at the start of the ALCS has not happened in my eyes, even now.

Carpenter has one start on 3 days of rest in his career, this year against the Phillies in the LDS, and gave up 4 over 3 innings.

True. Like I said I didn't know and I understood the logic. Just sucks you don't have him for 3 games, especially game 7. You think they use Westbrook?

No. We really need Carp to win tomorrown then Garcia will go game 6 in STL.


I dunno about game 7. Maybe Wainwright. LMAO

I haven't been impressed with Wilson. Then again, I haven't been impressed with Holland before today either.

Ya they will use Westbrook if they want to lose.

7 bbs isn't exactly a great recipe for winning either, although the did get around them today before Boggs came in and gave a high ball hitter a high fastball.

They gotta go with Lohse in game 7. I would rather pray we get good Lohse then start Westbrook.

It'll go this way:

Lohse until the first sign of trouble. Salas if runners are on. Carpenter will then start the next clean inning. Hopefully this gets us through five. At that point, you can then go with Lynn, Dotel, Rzep, and Motte playing matchups the whole way. If you go in to extras then you have Westbrook, Jackson, and Boggs available, with Rhodes for a single matchup against Murphy, Hamilton, or Moreland.

Or pull one outa left field and go......


Waino for 9 innings?


But I think you scenario is more probable