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memyselfI 06-15-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2
Education.

Experience.

I thought nothing of leaving my old lab alone with my 3 year old while I went to the little girl's room. There would be no way in hell I would have done the same with a pit or rott.

KingPriest2 06-15-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
Experience.

I thought nothing of leaving my old lab alone with my 3 year old while I went to the little girl's room. There would be no way in hell I would have done the same with a pit or rott.


No you don't understand. Every dog owner needs education on about their dog. ALso people need to be educated when it comes to loose dogs.

75% of these ARE MALE DOGS UNALTERED.

If they are altered and go thru obdient classes then it would cut down on these attacks.

Bannning is not the answer Education is.

KingPriest2 06-15-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
Experience.

I thought nothing of leaving my old lab alone with my 3 year old while I went to the little girl's room. There would be no way in hell I would have done the same with a pit or rott.


You still made a mistake. Read the articles.

memyselfI 06-15-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2
You still made a mistake. Read the articles.

Yeah, I know I made a mistake...but it was a mistake I COULD make.

As far as the altering the dog being the answer...

good luck with that. The country is FILLED with unwanted pets because owners fail to get their pets altered. Do you really think the type of people who obtain pitbulls or rotts will give a hoot if there are regulations requiring the dogs be altered? Especially if the altering of the dog is going to somehow diminish their worth when it comes to the protection or fighting element.

Again, good luck with that.

KingPriest2 06-15-2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI
Yeah, I know I made a mistake...but it was a mistake I COULD make.

As far as the altering the dog being the answer...

good luck with that. The country is FILLED with unwanted pets because owners fail to get their pets altered. Do you really think the type of people who obtain pitbulls or rotts will give a hoot if there are regulations requiring the dogs be altered? Especially if the altering of the dog is going to somehow diminish their worth when it comes to the protection or fighting element.

Again, good luck with that.


THat is the best way. Not banning.

Bob Dole 06-15-2006 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI
Experience.

I thought nothing of leaving my old lab alone with my 3 year old while I went to the little girl's room. There would be no way in hell I would have done the same with a pit or rott.

Bob Dole had a female Rottie that was the world's largest lapdog.

One of Bob Dole's best friends currently has a female pit that's about a year old now, and she is one of the most docile, friendly dogs you would ever hope to meet. She's afraid of Bob Dole's male chihuahua for cryin' out loud.

Inspector 06-16-2006 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole
Bob Dole had a female Rottie that was the world's largest lapdog.

One of Bob Dole's best friends currently has a female pit that's about a year old now, and she is one of the most docile, friendly dogs you would ever hope to meet. She's afraid of Bob Dole's male chihuahua for cryin' out loud.

I think we should ban chiuahua's.

I almost tripped on my son's once.

Lzen 06-16-2006 09:09 AM

Thanks, KingPriest2. That is some interesting info.

BIG_DADDY 06-16-2006 09:23 AM

Here is the tally for BSL nationally this year.

Arizona
Show Low: BSL PASSED and UPHELD
Luke Airforce Base: Passed
Arkansas
Bald Knob-decides against BSL
Shannon Hills-decides against BSL
Searcy-decides against BSL
Mulberry-decides against BSL
Russellville-passes BSL 5-2006
Pine Bluff-passed
California
Berkeley-current
Sonoma County-mandatory s/n
LA County-mandatory s/n
Lompoc-current
Colorado
Arvada-(and all of Jefferson County including Wheat Ridge, Arvada and Golden) current
SB054-doesnt pass
Parker-Current
Golden-decides against BSL
Estes Park-decides against BSL
Northglenn-decides against BSL
LaJunta-decides against BSL
Lakewood-Current
Layfayette-decides against BSL
Longmont-decides against BSL
Rocky Ford-decides against BSL
Lone Tree-passed BSL
Castle Rock-BSL
Commerce City-BSL
Ft. Lupton-BSL
Louisville-BSL
Federal Heights-decides against BSL
Westminster-decides against BSL
Aurora-passed BSL
Delaware
New Castle County-decides against BSL
Georgia
Rockmart--decides against BSL
Idaho
Fruitland-passes BSL
Illinois
Kewanee-decides against BSL
Waukegan-decides against BSL
Northlake -Current
Rockford-Current
McHenry County-decides against BSL
Normal-decides against BSL
Paxton-decides against BSL
Forest-decides against BSL
Bloomington-decides against BSL
Will County-decides against BSL
Chicago-decides against BSL
North Chicago-decides against BSL
Elgin-current
Lincolnshire-decides against BSL
Lincolnwood-Current
Hodgkins-decides against BSL
Indiana
Anderson-decides against BSL
Indianapolis-Current
Iowa
Humbolt-decides against BSL
Humboldt Iowa-Current
Mason City, Iowa-Current
Waterloo, Iowa-Current
Kansas
Leavenworth-decides against BSL
Witchita-decides against BSL
Overland Park-Current
Kentucky
Dayton-passes BSL
Frankfort -decides against BSL
Louisville-current
Lietchfield-decides against BSL
Milton-decides against BSL
Lincoln County-decides against BSL
Spencer County-decides against BSL
Middlesboro-decides against BSL
Mayfield-passed
Paintsville-Current
Louisianna
Lake Charles-decides against BSL
Sulpher-decides against BSL
Maryland
Thurmont-Current
North Beach-5-2006-discovered ban
Town of Port Deposit-5-2006-discovered ban
Brockton, Maryland-Current
Massachusetts
Fall River-current
Salem-decides against BSL
Michigan
Detroit-repealed
Ecourse-Passed
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Missouri
Belton-repealed
Oak Grove-decides against BSL
Springfield-passed
Bellfontaine Neighbors-decides against BSL
Unionville-decides against BSL
Jennings-decides against BSL
Trenton-Current
Kansas City Missouri-Current
Independence Missouri-Current
Ridgeway, Missouri-Current
Mississippi
Kosciusko-Current
Hinds County-Current
Boliver County-passes BSL
Richland-passes BSL
Jackson-current
Florence-Current
New Jersey
state-TABLED
New Mexico
Santa Fe County-current
Ohio
Lancaster-decides against BSL
East Palestine-decides against BSL
HB533
Pennsylvania
Wilkes Barre-decides against BSL
Hazelton, Pennsylvania-decides against BSL
South Carolina
Rock Hill-current
Tennessee
Bedford County-decides against BSL
Woodbury- decides against BSL
Texas
Killeen-decides againt BSL
San Antonio-Current
West Virginia
Wheeling-passed
Wisconsin
Eau Claire-Current
Yorkshire-passed in 1996

BIG_DADDY 06-16-2006 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
Thanks, KingPriest2. That is some interesting info.

I like his enthusiam here but I will not cut the balls off my dog. MOF I may breed him soon.

BIG_DADDY 06-16-2006 09:29 AM

Check out the new application form the HSUS wants everyone to fill out before even holding an animal.

http://www.rense.com/general71/datamined.htm

KingPriest2 06-16-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
I like his enthusiam here but I will not cut the balls off my dog. MOF I may breed him soon.



If people are legit breeders then that would be ok otherwise I think they need to be altered

What do you think?

MOhillbilly 06-16-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI
You are right.

I think a greater determination is asking the question would you rather be confronted by a stranger Lab or Pit Bull? Most sane people would say Lab and that is NOT by accident.

i dont want to confront any strange dog.
but if you know the language you can get a good gauge on how the dog is.

the breed isnt really as important as what the individual is trying to tell you.

BIG_DADDY 06-16-2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2
If people are legit breeders then that would be ok otherwise I think they need to be altered

What do you think?

You end up with all the wrong people legislating it for all the wrong reasons, that's the proble. Furthermore it is unenforceable legislation. I am not for unenforceable legislation. I think the answer lies entirely on on ownership accountibility and punishing the deed. To me there are no chances. A dog the bites and innocent person should be put down 1st offense. The owner should be held liable and charges should be filed accordingly.

BIG_DADDY 06-16-2006 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingPriest2
If people are legit breeders then that would be ok otherwise I think they need to be altered

What do you think?

You end up with all the wrong people legislating it for all the wrong reasons, that's the proble. Furthermore it is unenforceable legislation. I am not for unenforceable legislation. I think the answer lies entirely on on ownership accountibility and punishing the deed. To me there are no chances. A dog the bites and innocent person should be put down 1st offense. The owner should be held liable and charges should be filed accordingly.


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