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DenverChief 01-25-2007 10:16 PM

A travesty...someone has got to help this kid...WTF is the guvnah

Miles 01-25-2007 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief
A travesty...someone has got to help this kid...WTF is the guvnah

"They talk last-ditch plans, including a constitutional amendment returning pardon power to the governor. When they're done, Balser walks Bernstein to the elevator."

Guess Barker has never heard of the concept of prosecutorial discretion either.

KCChiefsMan 01-25-2007 10:36 PM

I hate when rednecks go on about how their proud to be an American...this is just another example of why I am ashamed to be an American......

ARROW2 01-26-2007 06:34 AM

Besides being in Georgia, the girl was white. That has a lot to do with it also and I don't care of anyone wants to admit it or not. This is bullshit but who was the dumb ass who filmed it?

Lzen 01-26-2007 08:57 AM

Quote:Originally Posted by BWillie007
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/etic...ory?page=wilson
But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex.

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief
This sums it up best for me: It's legal in Georgia for an 18-year old to have sex of any kind with a 14-year old.

Less than three years apart equals 4 years apart?

Edit: Plus, it's not really legal, either. It's a different level of crime (misdemeanor vs felony), but still a crime.

Lzen 01-26-2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman
From the legal system, no punishment should be given for the sexual act. Looking at the ages 17 and 15, that is on average a high school sophomore performing the BJ on a high school senior. That happens a lot more than people (especially the idiot far right wing bible-thumping conservatives) want to believe and IMO, it's just not a huge deal. Kids that age are going to sexually active more often than not and no amount of archaic ridiculous laws are going to change that.

The kid should be punished by the legal system for the drugs and booze present at the party, I wouldn't have a problem with that, and the kid's mother should give him the whipping of his life for exercising such horrible judgment, but that should be it. He screwed up, but he shouldn't be locked up in the system for the 10 most important years of his life (and being labeled a sex offender alongside rapists and pedophiles is an absolute joke). Our legal system has taken a kid that could have gone on to get a college education and maybe make something of himself and completely ruined his life.

I agree with this........even though I read the Bible and go to church. ;)

Lzen 01-26-2007 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
Intersting.
Regardless of what they might say there are an awful lot of white folks who look at sex between the little white girl and the big black buck as a social and criminal offense. Not all of them live in the South.
Wonder if this case might have been different if the girl had been black??

Sadly, there probably wouldn't be a case if the girl were black.
:shake:

Lzen 01-26-2007 09:01 AM

I still would like to know more about the rape charge. Did it get dropped completely? Why? Was it an obviously bogus claim? They didn't really say much about it.

Lzen 01-26-2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock
My brother in law and his g/f had sex in the same room with his best friend and his best friend's g/f when he was about that age. That's technically an orgy, and while they didn't videotape it, I'm sure he could probably be prosecuted under some law, but he's white, so they don't really care. The fact is, "orgies" happen all the time with younger kids, and while you or I may not like it, it goes on.

There's an even larger question of how ethical it is for us to legislate what someone else finds pleasurable. Even though they're minors, they were still consenting people well within what people consider a "normal" age range difference.

Shit, if I'd been prosecuted for every BJ I got from a freshman or sophomore girl when I was a junior/senior in HS, I'd be in jail for a lot longer than 10 years.

I know teens that are going to do that. I don't have a problem if they're 2-3 years apart. My niece was 16 and had a boyfriend that was 23. I told my sister she should have him prosecuted. Why? There is absolutely no reason for a 23 year old to be with a 16 year old. That, IMO, is child molestation. Of course, my sister didn't do anything. Now that idiot is in prison for some other crap he did. :shake: A real winner, I tell ya.

Lzen 01-26-2007 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
I didn't mean that literally, forgive my poor choice of words. My feeling was that if I got sent to the big house for 10 years because some goofy **** felt the need to video tape me getting head I would have some negative feelings towards the dude.

You're assuming that the ones being videotaped didn't want to be be taped. It is entirely possible (and probable, IMO) that he wanted to be taped. You know, to recapture the moment later on. ;)

Lzen 01-26-2007 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Kings
According to law, yes. It is unfortunate that he is in prison for 10 years, but if I was the DA I wouldn't back down either.

You have a 17 year old punk kid that admits to acting like a cocky star athlete, (even though his coaches said he was good, not great), that plans a party with hard liquor and weed, provides the drugs to a a bunch of young girls then lets a 15 year give him a BJ. He may not be a sexual predator or a pedaphile that deserves 10 years, but he is far from innocent and refuses to take any blame for his actions. The DA even offered him a plea bargan AFTER he was convicted, and he refused it. No matter how ignorant the laws are, what he did broke the law yet he continues to say that he is innocent when there is video evidence proving otherwise.

Then why not just charge him for giving alcohol and weed to minors, possession of those, etc? The punishment does not fit the crime.

Ultra Peanut 01-26-2007 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
I still would like to know more about the rape charge. Did it get dropped completely? Why? Was it an obviously bogus claim? They didn't really say much about it.

She admitted it was consensual.

Pants 01-26-2007 09:12 AM

Shit, a 17 year old ****ing a 15 year old is absolutely normal. 10 years for a blowjob? That's completely absurd and LITERALLY insane.

Lzen 01-26-2007 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan
I hate when rednecks go on about how their proud to be an American...this is just another example of why I am ashamed to be an American......

Then move to another country, dumbass.

Pants 01-26-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen
Then move to another country, dumbass.

Or learn the difference between "their" and "they're" and "there" before you talk shit for ****s sake.


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