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Lzen 05-21-2007 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Carlson the Bugeater
It's funny you bring up smokers, because as a smoker I've endured huge hikes in cigarette taxes because of the tobacco lawsuit and subsequent settlement a few years back. Supposedly, these additional taxes are to help pay for smoking related illnesses. Fair enough, I know it's risky behavior and I haven't complained about the additional cost. There's no reason those who don't smoke should have to pay for any smoking related illnesses I may come down with. It shouldn't be any different for those who choose not to wear their seatbelts.
Touche'. I hadn't really thought about that. I guess because that really doesn't affect me. I quit smoking cigarettes when I was 21(after 6 years). I'm very glad I did, though. Not just for the better health but also for all that money that goes down the drain.

BIG_DADDY 05-21-2007 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Carlson the Bugeater
Usually when people start making wild exaggerations I assume they've conceded their side of the argument. It's called Bugeater's Law.
ROFL There's a shocker, more laws.

Saulbadguy 09-27-2007 02:27 PM
I just took a defensive driving course taught by a Kansas Highway Patrolman. He said he has done around 3700+ collision reports in over 25 years in the business, and out of the fatal ones he's done, he's only had to unbuckle 2 seatbelts. One guy was impaled by a piece of lumber, and the other ran in to an armored vehicle and was decapitated.

You'd have to be a reerun to get in a car and not wear your seatbelt.

Skip Towne 09-27-2007 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
I just took a defensive driving course taught by a Kansas Highway Patrolman. He said he has done around 3700+ collision reports in over 25 years in the business, and out of the fatal ones he's done, he's only had to unbuckle 2 seatbelts. One guy was impaled by a piece of lumber, and the other ran in to an armored vehicle and was decapitated.

You'd have to be a reerun to get in a car and not wear your seatbelt.
You believe a cop? You know how they lie.

Saulbadguy 09-27-2007 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
You believe a cop? You know how they lie.
This guy was pretty cool. He wouldn't lie.

CoMoChief 09-27-2007 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
This guy was pretty cool. He wouldn't lie.
All cops lie.

That being said people need to wear their seatbelts. But I do not believe you need to be ticketed for not doing so. It should be at the driver's discretion whether or not he wears one.

JMO.

Skip Towne 09-27-2007 03:06 PM
It should be a matter of choice. I've been driving for 50 years without one and miraculously I'm still here.

Saulbadguy 09-27-2007 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief
All cops lie.

That being said people need to wear their seatbelts. But I do not believe you need to be ticketed for not doing so. It should be at the driver's discretion whether or not he wears one.

JMO.
In Kansas it's a secondary violation, meaning you can't get pulled over for just not wearing your seatbelt. Plus it's only 30 bucks. North Carolina fines a driver $150 for not wearing their seatbelt, and it's a primary violation.

Saulbadguy 09-27-2007 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
It should be a matter of choice. I've been driving for 50 years without one and miraculously I'm still here.
Yeah but unlike the rest of us, if you died, no one would care.

Adept Havelock 09-27-2007 03:16 PM
I've worn one ever since it kept me from going out the windshield.

Instead, just a wicked concussion from the door frame. Which explains quite a bit, I think...

Skip Towne 09-27-2007 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Yeah but unlike the rest of us, if you died, no one would care.
Then why do you keep running your yap?


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