Thanks HemiEd....

I guess the question is was he actually the scapegoat or was it an issue that he didn't agree with the way the O was heading, and was let go because Herm wanted more 3 yard runs?

Trent should have a pc in miami telling them to pony up a 4th or 5th round pick ROFL

That's a good point. Maybe scapegoat isn't the right word. Maybe it's just that he was the last vestige of the old offense. I know that he's the only one that knew WTF was going on when it came to the passing game. Doesn't matter, though, the offense will be entirely revamped this year. Totally new terminology and an extremely "simple" offense that "anyone" can understand. My understanding was that there was no support or desire to really learn or install the actual offense from the years before.

I doubt it will be completely new terminology.

In Greens first PC it was brought up and he said that he thought it was more than fair since Randy Moss, Darrell Jackson both went for 4th round picks and they were a lot younger than he is.

Green says he's done with the Chiefs
5/22/2007, 7:38 p.m. EDT
By DOUG TUCKER
The Associated Press

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — Angry and frustrated because his deal with Miami has been held up, Trent Green practiced with Kansas City on Tuesday while insisting he has no plans to ever play for the Chiefs again.

It's a situation the two-time Pro Bowl quarterback finds very uncomfortable.

"It's not only awkward for me and my family, but it's awkward for the guys in the weight room, in the locker room, on the practice field," he said. "I'm here every day. People ask, 'What's going on?' Guys don't know how to react to me, how to treat me."

Green, who turns 37 in July, was one of the NFL's most productive quarterbacks from 2001-05, but sustained a severe concussion in the opener last season and did not play well when he returned for the second half of the year. He had three turnovers in a lopsided playoff loss to Indianapolis.

When he was asked in February by Chiefs president Carl Peterson to restructure his contract and take a reduced role, he asked for permission to find another team.

Miami worked out a contract with Green, but the Chiefs and Dolphins have been at odds over compensation, with Miami offering a sixth-round draft choice and Peterson insisting on a fourth-round pick.

The standoff has escalated with Green's agent saying Green would not play for the Chiefs again. Peterson fired right back, saying he was prepared to keep the veteran as a backup and pay his guaranteed $7.2 million this year.

Head coach Herm Edwards has said several times that he would give second-year man Brodie Croyle every chance to seize the job. He also said as recently as Monday that the competition between Green, Croyle and Damon Huard would be fair, that everybody would be given the same opportunity to win the job.

"He's always very careful to put a disclaimer at the end and say, 'But everybody's going to be equal, everybody's going to have the same number of reps,'" Green said. "He's the head coach. He can do what he wants.

"But I've been in the league long enough and when you see those comments over the course of several months and you see the way the reps are going to work out, and you see what Brodie's making, what Damon was re-signed for and what I'm making, it's not a fair competition. It's a weighted competition."


If a deal is not worked out, would he retire before staying with the Chiefs, especially as a backup?

"I really haven't had that discussion with my wife or my family and I haven't had that discussion with my agent because I'm still banking on the fact that the deal that was made back in February or March, that they would get the trade done," he said. "I guess when that time comes, then I'll have to cross that bridge."

At Miami, Green would probably serve as a caretaker while the Dolphins groom John Beck of Brigham Young, who was selected in the second round of last month's draft.

There has been speculation Miami will trade or release Daunte Culpepper, who is still hobbled by a 2005 knee injury. Culpepper played only four games last season and has yet to receive medical clearance to participate in minicamp next month.

Miami head coach Cam Cameron was Green's quarterback coach at Washington, and Terry Shea, Green's longtime quarterback coach in Kansas City who was fired at the end of the season, has also wound up with the Dolphins.

Green said the Dolphins had not promised he would start.

"They haven't said, 'You're the guy, come right in,'" he said. "They haven't told me one way or another. I just know I would have a much more fair chance, for my mind. Because here, it's obviously weighted."

The Chiefs have two more practices this week and then three next week before a mandatory three-day minicamp June 1-3. Green said if he's not in Miami, he will take part.

"Players and coaches alike have come up to me and said, 'We support you. What's going on is wrong,'" he said. "I've had to step back because I don't even know my role. There's an awkwardness there."


Saw this on chiefscoalition.
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/top...st=&thispage=1

So when the Dolphins make him a backup next year, is he going to whine like a bitch then too?

WTF is Trent's problem? Is he really that upset that he hasn't been guaranteed the starting job in KC? That for the first time in 6 years he has to earn the job? What a pussy. Why doesn't he just step up to the competition and win the damn job? Is he really afraid he can't compete with Croyle and/ or Huard? What an embarrassment.

I would love to see that!

I feel so bad for Trent that his workplace is awkward. That must be really tough. And can you imagine the stress of having to wait until the last minute to buy your mansion in Miami? How does his family cope with all of these difficulties?

But it's weighted! :deevee:

I get the general feeling that nobody on the O side of the ball is very happy. Waters doesn't sound please, Wiegmann seems to hate the fact that they are moving away from a wide open offense. Heck, even Will Shields made a comment about it after he retired.

So far Herm has yet to prove that he knows anything about running an offense. Hell, I honestly felt better about the offense with Gun in charge, at least he tried to look at what kind of Offenses gave him the most problems, and tried to build his offense that way. But heck, we are talking about Herm, the man who hired Hackett even after the all conservative Marty couldn't take it any longer.

We still may come out of it okay, and maybe we will make some trips to the playoff's. We may, but this could be very painful to watch.

Herm is just doing what he can with what he has. We don't have the players to run that offense anymore. Larry isn't versatile enough. We don't have the receivers. Our coordinator isn't experienced enough in it.

Our talent matches the profile of a smashmouth offense. Think the 1986 Giants or 2000 Ravens.

You were what...4 years old when the '86 Giants played? What an amazing memory you have. Or are you just regurgitating what you read again?