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Buehler445 06-11-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 4789245)
Now you're backtracking....

So now it's Herm's fault that he didn't step in and change things to prevent punting to Peyton? Easier said than done.

How about executing the plays? Is it also Herm's fault that the players couldn't execute the plays that were called?

If they would have done that, we likely would have won that game. If the defense would have made a stop in the 4th quarter, we likely would have won. It doesn't make a shit bit of difference what plays were called or who called them if the personnel can't execute it.

No, I'm operating under the premise that Herm is responsible for that play. I seriously don't think that Solari would be like, "No, Herm, I don't think we can get a 12 yard play. I'm going to run a draw play to get Colquitt 2 more yards and make Gunther's D stop the best offensive unit in the league." Sorry, I don't buy it. Not in the least.

ChiefsCountry 06-11-2008 09:00 PM

Jesus Saunders used to run draws on 3rd and Long quite a bit as well but on the other hand so did Jimmy Raye with Donnell Bennett.

BigRedChief 06-11-2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4789621)
Thats what I'll miss most is the tailgating and friends built up through the years.
Weirdwolf
FirstDownElvis
Nzoner
Brock
JSPChief
and now me

Thats some seriously hard core Chief fans that have given up their tickets.:shake:

Big ommision. I profusely apoligize. You are worthy! :wayne:

Fish 06-12-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 4790152)
No, I'm operating under the premise that Herm is responsible for that play. I seriously don't think that Solari would be like, "No, Herm, I don't think we can get a 12 yard play. I'm going to run a draw play to get Colquitt 2 more yards and make Gunther's D stop the best offensive unit in the league." Sorry, I don't buy it. Not in the least.

You're "operating under a premise" huh? You mean blindly guessing what someone else might have been thinking?

No matter how badly you want to blame Herm for everything, the offensive coordinator calls the plays. Not the head coach. And The OC doesn't check in with the head coach on each play to get his opinion on the matter. It doesn't happen that way.

Keep reaching.

BigRedChief 06-12-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xfactor (Post 4788889)
Am I the only one happy to see this finally happen. With the TeePee calling it quits and now BRC folding up the tailgate I will now live longer. It took away many years of my life dancing at the Teepee getting to the point of almost a heart attack, then being topped off by having to walk 20 feet and BRC giving me a "HEART ATTACK ON A BUN." Not to mention BRC giving me the biggest man hugs, I actually know what it feels like to be a pimple being popped cause of these.

In all serious, BRC with you the Tee Pee calling it quits, Weirdwolf retiring and Elvis making the same decsion you have, has completely blown Lot C up into also nothing. You were a huge part of what made that area the very best in the area of tailgating/party in the whole NFL and I've been to 24 NFL stadiums to justify that comment. There was not a better time anywhere in the NFL. Like I told WeirdWolf, go recharge those batteries, relight that fire and we will hold the fort down. In the meantime I will work on my spandex figure walking aimlessly through the parking lot trying to find "THE PARTY" but nothing will every compare to the one you helped make. You defiently will have to give me a hugs to make up for the ones I don't get every game you do decide to come to.

I know you get a lot of grief about the spandex and beeing an attention whore.

But I know all about the charity work that you do and the people that you have helped when you wern't in the spandex. Just let them be haters and keep up the charity work.

I'll see you on opening day or at Red Friday!

Reerun_KC 06-12-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 4790672)
You're "operating under a premise" huh? You mean blindly guessing what someone else might have been thinking?

No matter how badly you want to blame Herm for everything, the offensive coordinator calls the plays. Not the head coach. And The OC doesn't check in with the head coach on each play to get his opinion on the matter. It doesn't happen that way.

Keep reaching.

Speaking of reaching.. Herm is this really you?

Oh and why do all the plays go through the Asst HC before they go onto the field? Yet the Asst HC has veto power over the OC...

Why you failing to bring that into the conversation?

OnTheWarpath15 06-12-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 4791502)
Speaking of reaching.. Herm is this really you?

Oh and why do all the plays go through the Asst HC before they go onto the field? Yet the Asst HC has veto power over the OC...

Why you failing to bring that into the conversation?

I'd love to see a link that confirms that information.

Christ, an OC gets about 15 seconds out of the play clock to make a decision and make a play call so the offense can get out of the huddle on time. They don't have the time to go through multiple decision makers.

Some of you guys are acting like there's a ****ing union meeting over on the sidelines determining the playcall.

Reerun_KC 06-12-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4791507)
I'd love to see a link that confirms that information.

Christ, an OC gets about 15 seconds out of the play clock to make a decision and make a play call so the offense can get out of the huddle on time. They don't have the time to go through multiple decision makers.

Some of you guys are acting like there's a ****ing union meeting over on the sidelines determining the playcall.

I would like to see a link that proves otherwise... You have your opinion and I have mine....

A union meeting on the sidelines would be a step up. Problem is Herm is still part of that union...

Buehler445 06-12-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 4790672)
You're "operating under a premise" huh? You mean blindly guessing what someone else might have been thinking?

No matter how badly you want to blame Herm for everything, the offensive coordinator calls the plays. Not the head coach. And The OC doesn't check in with the head coach on each play to get his opinion on the matter. It doesn't happen that way.

Keep reaching.

If you think Herm has no effect on the plays that are called, especially for a n00b coordinator, then there is not really much more to talk about.

OnTheWarpath15 06-12-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 4791519)
I would like to see a link that proves otherwise... You have your opinion and I have mine....

A union meeting on the sidelines would be a step up. Problem is Herm is still part of that union...

Who needs a link when you use common ****ing sense?

Oh, wait. Too much to ask from you.

If the situation you're suggesting was actually the case, we'd be getting 15 delay of game penalties every Sunday.

There's simply not enough time to have a decision made, a play called, THEN VETOED - only to have another decision made and ANOTHER play called.

All in 15 seconds.

OnTheWarpath15 06-12-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 4791535)
If you think Herm has no effect on the plays that are called, especially for a n00b coordinator, then there is not really much more to talk about.

Having an "effect" and actually controlling the playcalls on Sunday are two totally separate issues.

There's not a HC in the league that doesn't sit down with the OC during the week to discuss playcalls for specific down and distance situations.

But to say that he's vetoing the playcalls and making them himself on Sunday is flat out tinfoil hat BS.

As pointed out already, there's just not enough time.

Buehler445 06-12-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4791552)
Having an "effect" and actually controlling the playcalls on Sunday are two totally separate issues.

There's not a HC in the league that doesn't sit down with the OC during the week to discuss playcalls for specific down and distance situations.

But to say that he's vetoing the playcalls and making them himself on Sunday is flat out tinfoil hat BS.

As pointed out already, there's just not enough time.

I think Herm had a tremendous amount to do with that specific decision. He stated several times that he was working directly with Solari since he was a n00b. Moreover, he talks consistently about a conservative strategy within games.

Bottom line: Herm is not the coach of this team, we at least TRY to get a first down tie ballgame with 4 minutes left.

BigRedChief 06-13-2008 06:36 AM

Got this response so far.....Buy another ticket and we will move you to some better seats.


Good afternoon. Thank you for your continued support of the Kansas City Chiefs! I would like to introduce myself as your Kansas City Chiefs account manager.

It has come to my attention that there are seats available next to your LowerLevel season tickets. Do you know anyone who would be interested in sitting next to you for the 2008 season?

If so, I can secure those seats for you or we can relocate all of your seats to a better location with the addition of 1 or more season tickets.

Thank you once again for remaining a part of the Chiefs family. If I can help you in anyway, please call (edited by BRC) or email (edited by BRC) and I would be happy to assist.

All the best, Steve

Steve Eberle│ Account Executive

Buehler445 06-13-2008 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4792334)
Got this response so far.....Buy another ticket and we will move you to some better seats.


Good afternoon. Thank you for your continued support of the Kansas City Chiefs! I would like to introduce myself as your Kansas City Chiefs account manager.

It has come to my attention that there are seats available next to your LowerLevel season tickets. Do you know anyone who would be interested in sitting next to you for the 2008 season?

If so, I can secure those seats for you or we can relocate all of your seats to a better location with the addition of 1 or more season tickets.

Thank you once again for remaining a part of the Chiefs family. If I can help you in anyway, please call (edited by BRC) or email (edited by BRC) and I would be happy to assist.

All the best, Steve

Steve Eberle│ Account Executive

At least you got some response. "Account Executive" sounds pretty low to me, but hopefully your message was received by more than him.

Otter 06-13-2008 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4789621)
Thats what I'll miss most is the tailgating and friends built up through the years.
Weirdwolf
FirstDownElvis
Nzoner
Brock
JSPChief
and now me

Thats some seriously hard core Chief fans that have given up their tickets.:shake:

:eek:

Wow! I had no idea, like you said, that's a lot of core players.

Tell you what, I'm glad to see it happen though. The people running the show at One Arrowhead Drive have been the General Motors of the NFL for way to long and speaking with your wallet is the only way they'll listen.

There may be light at the end of the tunnel after all.


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