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RINGLEADER 02-17-2009 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5501850)
UGH. I almost hate to say this (it's going to sound like a defense of Krumrie), but what position coach on the team had less to work with last year?

Eric Price maybe?
I'd argue that Bowe's much better at his position than Hali is at his.

Krumrie has one middling DE and a bunch of young guys who aren't ready to be big contributors yet.

Seriously... What position coach had less to work with?

We can't just look at their draft positions and assume that they should be an all-world line.
You might be 100% correct but if you really want to clean shop and send a message that mediocrity won't be tolerated you don't keep the coach responsible, to any degree, in the same job. Impression it sends it it doesn't matter how back you suck, your fault or not.

Just Passin' By 02-17-2009 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5501857)
The Cardinals have a ton of talent yet their defense wasn't good...explain that.
:shrug:

You're overrating the talent?

Micjones 02-17-2009 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5501858)
these guys listen to mecca too much
I'm not a big fan of Krumrie's. I was hoping he'd be replaced, but at the same time I realize that we didn't exactly have a bunch of studs along the D-Line. That group was among the most talent-deficient on the entire team.

Even the Offensive Line, I think, had better talent.

missinDThomas 02-17-2009 06:44 PM
in the postseason it was.....they just weren't the steelers

wazu 02-17-2009 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 5501859)
The Replacements 2: Rise of the Coaches
ROFL

dirk digler 02-17-2009 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 5501851)
Pendergast oversaw:

19th ranked defense in yards allowed (331.5 ypg vs Chiefs' 393.2)
27th ranked defense in 3rd down conversions allowed (44% vs Chiefs' 47%)
26th in penalty yards allowed (816 yards vs Chiefs' 588 -- Chiefs were #3 in that category)
27th ranked defense in points allowed (26.6 per game vs. Chiefs' 27.5)
T-17th for total Interceptions (13 vs. Chiefs' 13)
T-8th for forced fumbles (20 vs. Chiefs' 20)
T-14th for sacks registered (31 vs. Chiefs' 10)

They also held opponents to 13 points or less only 4 times (and 2 of those were against the St. Louis Rams).

If it's Pendergast that would be very disappointing...
God that is horrid and they have a ton more talent than the Chiefs do on D.

Micjones 02-17-2009 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 5501864)
You might be 100% correct but if you really want to clean shop and send a message that mediocrity won't be tolerated you don't keep the coach responsible, to any degree, in the same job. Impression it sends it it doesn't matter how back you suck, your fault or not.
And I don't disagree, but I think that message can easily get lost in the same fire.

IF, that unit was completely and utterly devoid of talent.

missinDThomas 02-17-2009 06:46 PM
you know I am pumped until they prove me otherwise.......Pioli isn't stupid

Mecca 02-17-2009 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5501861)
who on that defense was SOOOOO talented?
Yea Dockett, Dansby, Adrian Wilson, just to name a few what shitty players.

Mecca 02-17-2009 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5501870)
God that is horrid and they have a ton more talent than the Chiefs do on D.
Shh, according to Jason we're stupid and Arizona has no talent.

SAUTO 02-17-2009 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5501878)
Yea Dockett, Dansby, Adrian Wilson, just to name a few what shitty players.
ooohh ooh 3 players,

Mizzou_8541 02-17-2009 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5501558)
Well just the use of Glenn Dorsey should be enough to get Krumrie fired.
Explain, please. How did he use Dorsey that was wrong? I don't know. I just saw him getting pwned all year and wondered why.

SAUTO 02-17-2009 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5501879)
Shh, according to Jason we're stupid and Arizona has no talent.
where did i say they had no talent, are you twisting words here? or making shit up?

you act like 1-11 they are pro bowlers, not true. and history has shown that when you dont control the clock with the run your defense struggles.

Mecca 02-17-2009 06:50 PM
Would you like me to name their defense?

Their defense is full of talented players they in no way should be ranked where they were.

ChiefsCountry 02-17-2009 06:51 PM
Steve Hoffman is a hell of a special teams coach. That is a darn good move.


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