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Dr. Johnny Fever 04-08-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 5651092)
what kind of name is rany? absurd.

says thurman merman....



:D

Mama Hip Rockets 04-08-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 5651138)
says thurman merman....



:D

thurman merman is not my real name.

even so, it is a much better name than "rany."

Demonpenz 04-08-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5650215)
People over evaluate the first game to the point of absurdity.

I would agree if it wasn't for the fact it was a microcosim of the stupidity lack of understanding stats, that our manager does all the freaking time. You have to have a balance of stats and gut feeling as a manager, and if his gut was feeling was farnsworth was going to work through that, well he has an ulcer

Dr. Johnny Fever 04-08-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 5651141)
thurman merman is not my real name.

even so, it is a much better name than "rany."

A. I know
B. No it isn't
C. playin dude

Demonpenz 04-08-2009 12:12 PM

that said it just one game.

Titty Meat 04-08-2009 12:17 PM

Woohooo Dayton Moore. Aren't the Royals going to win the divison now that Dayton Moore is there GM?

Demonpenz 04-08-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 5651174)
Woohooo Dayton Moore. Aren't the Royals going to win the divison now that Dayton Moore is there GM?

Billay!

tomahawk kid 04-08-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 5651161)
that said it just one game.

It was. The thing that bothered me is that his management decisions yesterday were just absurd and (based on the comments in the paper) it doesn't appear he learned a damn thing from it. Mahay isn't a "leftie specialist"? Are you fucking kidding me?

My worst fear (that looks to be not that far from reality) is that Hillman is a younger version of Tony Muser.

No feel for a game, refuses to admit mistakes or adjust and then appears to have ZERO self awareness (the comment in the JoPo piece in which Hillman is surprised Posnanski wanted to talk about the game is telling - and not in a good way).

I can guarantee we'll see that Farnsworth decision duplicate itself 3-4 times before the All Star break.

I hope I'm wrong.......

DeezNutz 04-08-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 5651185)
It was. The thing that bothered me is that his management decisions yesterday were just absurd and (based on the comments in the paper) it doesn't appear he learned a damn thing from it. Mahay isn't a "leftie specialist"? Are you fucking kidding me?

My worst fear (that looks to be not that far from reality) is that Hillman is a younger version of Tony Muser.

No feel for a game, refuses to admit mistakes or adjust and then appears to have ZERO self awareness (the comment in the JoPo piece in which Hillman is surprised Posnanski wanted to talk about the game is telling - and not in a good way).

I can guarantee we'll see that Farnsworth decision duplicate itself 3-4 times before the All Star break.

I hope I'm wrong.......

Hillman is in a no-win situation, to a degree. If he goes back to Farnsworth, he's a stubborn dumbass. If he shelves Farnworth in the 8th to turn to Cruz, Mahay, Hillman is a just a ****ing dumbass who didn't have a clue initially.

Should I bunt Billy Butler? Should I not bunt Billy Butler? Today let's bunt. Tomorrow, let's swing away.

I don't see a consistent philosophy at this point. I'm hopeful that John Gibbons, a more seasoned ML manager, might be able to help improve with this until he takes over full time on July 27th.

Demonpenz 04-08-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 5651185)
It was. The thing that bothered me is that his management decisions yesterday were just absurd and (based on the comments in the paper) it doesn't appear he learned a damn thing from it. Mahay isn't a "leftie specialist"? Are you fucking kidding me?

My worst fear (that looks to be not that far from reality) is that Hillman is a younger version of Tony Muser.

No feel for a game, refuses to admit mistakes or adjust and then appears to have ZERO self awareness (the comment in the JoPo piece in which Hillman is surprised Posnanski wanted to talk about the game is telling - and not in a good way).

I can guarantee we'll see that Farnsworth decision duplicate itself 3-4 times before the All Star break.

I hope I'm wrong.......


Farnsworth will get some "luck" holds and everyone will think it is aok then blow a big time game

Titty Meat 04-08-2009 12:27 PM

How much are they paying Farmsworth? Isn't it something like 8 mil?

tomahawk kid 04-08-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5651200)
Hillman is in a no-win situation, to a degree. If he goes back to Farnsworth, he's a stubborn dumbass. If he shelves Farnworth in the 8th to turn to Cruz, Mahay, Hillman is a just a ****ing dumbass who didn't have a clue initially.

Should I bunt Billy Butler? Should I not bunt Billy Butler? Today let's bunt. Tomorrow, let's swing away.

I don't see a consistent philosophy at this point. I'm hopeful that John Gibbons, a more seasoned ML manager, might be able to help improve with this until he takes over full time on July 27th.

I agreed with you to an extent.

My issue is that everyone and their dog could see that Farnsworth was spooked with 2 on, 2 out.

Instead of bringing in Mahay, Cruz or (gasp) even Soria - he left a right handed fastball pitcher in there to face a future HOFer who eats RH fastball pitchers for breakfast. All the while clinging to a 1 run lead.....

That means either -

1. Hillman was unaware of Thome's affinity to owning said pitchers of said ilk.
2. Hillman had complete faith in Farnsworth even though the guy has proven on a consistent basis that he WILL screw the pootch when given the opportunity.

Neither one of these options raises my confidence in Father Hillman.

DeezNutz 04-08-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 5651220)
That means either -

1. Hillman was unaware of Thome's affinity to owning said pitchers of said ilk.
2. Hillman had complete faith in Farnsworth even though the guy has proven on a consistent basis that he WILL screw the pootch when given the opportunity.

Neither one of these options raises my confidence in Father Hillman.

I don't disagree with any of this.

I'm all for giving Hillman time to improve, but this is further evidence to the larger argument that he isn't qualified for the gig. Other posters have been claiming this for a long time. I haven't, but I'm not turning a blind eye to the obvious, either.

It seems like a lot find themselves in this category.

tomahawk kid 04-08-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5651232)
I don't disagree with any of this.

I'm all for giving Hillman time to improve, but this is further evidence to the larger argument that he isn't qualified for the gig. Other posters have been claiming this for a long time. I haven't, but I'm not turning a blind eye to the obvious, either.

It seems like a lot find themselves in this category.

I really wanted to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but yesterday's debacle really took alot of the wind out of my sails.......

Sure-Oz 04-08-2009 12:38 PM

Tony Muser FTW


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