Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6220653)

I cant believe I forgot to add Jimmy and McBride.

Jimmy has 5.5...he should have 6 but you know how the coaches like the players to share.

I can literally post a link to a post of mine calling for us to either keep every one of those guys or me being pissed they were let go for whatever reason they let go. (except Siavii)

**** YOU CP !!! **** YOU IN THE BUNGHOLE !!!!

Add to that the possibilities we could have had if that ****ing moron had traded LJ and kept Jared like any competant GM would have.

that is 100% proof that CP is a complete and total FAIL

I bet those players have double, if not triple how many sacks our whole team has currently.

He should hve been fired when the Hunts found out he didnt fire Gunther face to face. That is a HUGE sign he wasnt capable of doing his damn job.

I would have liked to see Marty with a franchise Qb back in the days, but again CP is a total idiot....OH WAIT I FORGOT HE BROUGHT IN JOE MONTANA....oh wait that was the only time we ever had a legitimate chance at a superbowl.

Very telling also is that most of those players were our leading tackler the year before they were jettisoned.

Pollard was.

Damn I hate CP, and Scott Pioli is starting to piss me off too, but wait I dont want to be called a flip flopper by Buster ****ing Hymen so I better not say bad words about the great Pioli!

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6220876)

You are full of shit, as usual.

You were sucking Herms imaginary penis till the day he was fired, unless you'd care to lie about that too. You also thought that Thigpen should be the starter this year, and the Chiefs wouldn't be bringing in another QB, either through draft or FA. Now you suddenly think Pollard is a world beater, even though theres a ton of proof otherwise. You are football stupid. It may be time for you to stfu and watch and learn for a change.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6220887)

First, no one said he's a world beater. However, he is, IMO a serviceable safety - and compared to Mike Brown, he's an upgrade.

And what "proof otherwise" do you have?

That he played poorly because he was being used incorrectly - something that happened to several players during Herm's time here?

Hiring dipshit defensive coordinator after dipshit defensive coordinator is the bigger issue here.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6220887)

First, no one said he's a world beater. However, he is, IMO a serviceable safety - and compared to Mike Brown, he's an upgrade.

And what "proof otherwise" do you have?

That he played poorly because he was being used incorrectly - something that happened to several players during Herm's time here?

Hiring dipshit defensive coordinator after dipshit defensive coordinator is the bigger issue here.

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6220919)

Bad being better than worse still doesn't equal good. Don't you think hiding Pollard in a defense with their front, and Ryans and Cushing makes him look better than he actually is?

Kawika Mitchell and Nap Harris led the Chiefs in tackles in consecutive years. Does that make them magically good? I didn't think so. We're crying over garbage players here, and while the defensive coaching leaves something to be desired, it's pretty much a fact that the players themselves suck.

Pollard being played in a cover who, or 3/4 doesn't take away from the fact that he is a terrible tackler, who lost contain all the time, and is slower than shit. Just because Mike Brown is slower doesn't make Pollard fast. It probably was a mistake cutting him for Brown, but the difference is VERY subtle.

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 6220931)

Pollard, through 4 games with a new team: 23tak 0sck 0force fumble

Brown, through the first 4 games with a new team: 27tak 1sck 0force fumble

Is Brown the same guy that played in Chicago? Outside of leadership ability, is he substantially better than Pollard?... obviously not.

Brown was kept, IMO, because of his experience, because he knows how to prepare like a former All-Pro & the coaches are hoping some of that will rub off on the young guys.

Go ahead & rip my last paragraph, i can see the openings... but the stat sheet says we didnt lose a goddamned thing, why is everyone acting like we just canned Ronnie Lott?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6220938)

Do you actually watch the games?

I'd say no, based on that post, because Brown makes many more mistakes per game than Pollard ever did, and Pollard was being mis-used.

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6220953)

Brown makes a ton of mistakes based mostly on ability at this point in his career. You've apparently forgotten all the 40yd + runs that Pollard was directly involved in last year, because I haven't. Pollard, at most, is slightly better, and as was stated, without ANY of the leadership qualities that an experienced player like Brown can bring in. (not that it's helped much) The fact of the matter is, Flowers is the only viable starting d-back on the team to take in to the future. A young Pollard is nobodies saviour.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6220771)

Less of a fool than you were.

"MONSTER year for BP!"

ROFL

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6220789)

Yeah, that's all it was...it had nothing to do with him missing five tackles in three quarters of one preseason game....

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6220872)

Good post.

There is a quote floating around here from Pollard, talking about Gunther's departure, and how he was "held back" because he was asked to do things scheme wise that didn't play to his strengths - namely, playing in coverage.

Now, in just a short time, you can see that Pollard wasn't the problem - as Houston is playing him up in run support, and he's really given that bad run defense a huge boost. Hell, he's played less than half the season for them and he's 6th on the team in tackles.