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jspchief 11-08-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6246153)
I think Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed are more valuable to their teams than any of their lineman....

In other years you'd be using those guys as examples as how we were reaching. Kind of talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Not that I'm opposed to having a great safety. I'm just opposed to hypocrites.

chiefzilla1501 11-08-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246165)
not when you have the glaring needs the of Chiefs
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And Safety is arguably the #1 glaring need. You need to watch how Mike Brown played today and all season.

Mecca 11-08-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 6246181)
In other years you'd be using those guys as examples as how we were reaching. Kind of talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Not that I'm opposed to having a great safety. I'm just opposed to hypocrites.

I don't argue against guys who are playmakers...who else is there for us to pick?

These are our options, elite safety, OT who isn't worth the pick, there are no rushbackers, another defensive lineman?

Eric Berry is looking like the option.

Shox 11-08-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6246180)
Considering we have lost two games bc of our piss poor safety I say its a pretty glaring need.

Oh I agree Brown is horrible, we should have never got rid of Pollard. But, it does not justify take a safety with a top 5 pick. We have way to many needs above safety......Oline, LBs, RB, WR.
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Mecca 11-08-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246189)
Oh I agree Brown is horrible, we should have never got rid of Pollard. But, it does not justify take a safety with a top 5 pick. We have way to many needs above safety......Oline, LBs, RB, WR.
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You need to go study the value of next years draft to realize why those guys aren't worth the picks..

And you should never ever take a RB high that is the dime a dozen position.

notorious 11-08-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246179)
Both Reed and Polamalu have great talent around them which is one of the reasons it makes them great players. What do the Ravens and Steelers have in common. Great LBs and a great pass rush...........two things the Chiefs do not have.
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Outstanding point.

When you can get pressure on the QB it frees up the safety to do whatever he want to.


If we had a free roaming safety, well it would be about the same as having Mike Brown back there.

It would help, but I wouldn't expect amazing things until the front 7 started playing well.

Shox 11-08-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6246193)
You need to go study the value of next years draft to realize why those guys aren't worth the picks..

And you should never ever take a RB high that is the dime a dozen position.

I never said to take a RB, but RB is a bigger need than safety imo.
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RedThat 11-08-2009 08:38 PM

i think the chiefs need to focus on rebuilding the foundation of their football team. Get some offensive lineman and passrushers and you'll see how better they'll be. Im telling you. If you add a passrusher you'd be surprised how a position like that could mask other weaknesses on the team. If you have Olineman that could block you could open up the offense more, and do more on offense. Your offense is more flexible and less limited.

they have no foundation and its really bad. you know you can talk about safety play all you want and the best safety prospects, whatever, but if this is our foundation going into next season, were screwed i dont care who you throw back there at safety. Even if you throw Polamalu or Reed this team would still be screwed.

chiefzilla1501 11-08-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246179)
Both Reed and Polamalu have great talent around them which is one of the reasons it makes them great players. What do the Ravens and Steelers have in common. Great LBs and a great pass rush...........two things the Chiefs do not have.
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Watch a Ravens or Steelers game before spouting this shit off.

Seriously, watch the Pittsburgh game tomorrow. The Steelers looked very shaky on defense without him earlier this season. Surprise, surprise--he comes back and they look dominant again.

But seriously. Watch Polamalu. If you're too lazy, tivo the game and just watch defensive plays. The guy is all over the field. He's lined up as a corner. He's darting after the QB on lots of safety blitzes. He's blowing up screen passes. The Steelers can't do a lot of the same things on defense when he's not there. He's a clear difference maker. Anyone who says otherwise is a COMPLETE idiot.

luv 11-08-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6246189)
Oh I agree Brown is horrible, we should have never got rid of Pollard. But, it does not justify take a safety with a top 5 pick. We have way to many needs above safety......Oline, LBs, RB, WR.
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Eh. He may be doing good in Houston, but he left a lot to be desired for us.

Mecca 11-08-2009 08:40 PM

If you don't want a safety with the pick I wanna hear who we should be taking because frankly what's there for us other than the safety?

Shox 11-08-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6246201)
Eh. He may be doing good in Houston, but he left a lot to be desired for us.

he is a 100 times better than Brown.
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Rain Man 11-08-2009 08:41 PM

The positions where we most need improvement:

1. Center
2. Strong safety (though maybe Morgan could step in)
3. Wide receiver
4. Outside linebacker
5. Right guard
6. Fullback
7. Left tackle (though maybe Albert can step up)
8. Inside linebacker

The positions where we most need a first-round investment:

1. Wide receiver
2. Outside linebacker
3. Left tackle (though maybe Albert can step up)
4. Inside linebacker
5. Center
6. Strong safety (though maybe Morgan could step in)

luv 11-08-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6246206)
The positions where we most need improvement:

1. Center
2. Strong safety (though maybe Morgan could step in)
3. Wide receiver
4. Outside linebacker
5. Right guard
6. Fullback
7. Left tackle (though maybe Albert can step up)
8. Inside linebacker

The positions where we most need a first-round investment:

1. Wide receiver
2. Outside linebacker
3. Left tackle (though maybe Albert can step up)
4. Inside linebacker
5. Center
6. Strong safety (though maybe Morgan could step in)

No TE in there anywhere?

OnTheWarpath15 11-08-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6246204)
If you don't want a safety with the pick I wanna hear who we should be taking because frankly what's there for us other than the safety?

I fully expect us to trade a 2nd round pick for a backup safety, eliminating all value of our Top 5 pick.


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