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Red Dawg 11-09-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6247302)
What I find funny is you ahve two guys in Piloi and Haley that came from SB teams. You have players like Fitzy, Warner and Boldin talking about how great it was to play for Haley and here is Petro whining because we let go fo a TE that didn't want to be here, cut a cancer on the field at Saftey, cut a cancer in the lockerrom in LJ and didn't treat Waters like he is anything great because he rode the coattails of Roaf.

HELL YES! Fantastic answer and 100% on target.

WilliamTheIrish 11-09-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6247452)
This.

The TG trade I'll always stand behind - it was a good move getting a 1st day pick for a guy that plays a complementary position and was only planning on playing another year or two.

His points about Pollard, DJ and Bowe are dead on, and I can understand why people would be rubbed the wrong way by his initial handling of Waters and the subsequent comments made about winning 2 games with 22 guys off the street.

DJ seems to make plays every time he's on the field, yet promptly goes back to the bench after.

My thoughts on Bowe have been covered.

He has some valid points.

DJ has been the greatest underachiever on this team since the day he stepped foot on the practice field. I do not understand the pining for a guy who has been nothing short of a disappointment.

"DJ makes plays and then goes to the bench".

Of course he does.

OnTheWarpath15 11-09-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6248708)
DJ has been the greatest underachiever on this team since the day he stepped foot on the practice field. I do not understand the pining for a guy who has been nothing short of a disappointment.

"DJ makes plays and then goes to the bench".

Of course he does.

DJ may be an underachiever compared to his draft status, but he's still the best LB we have on the team.

The best players should be playing.

WilliamTheIrish 11-09-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6248423)
Is this the same Petro who said good riddance to Gonzales and told Waters to man up with the new regime?

"ROR, why do you bag on Petro? He's teh best in KC"!!!




Angry, don't give a ****, east coast-type sports jock for covering this franchise please...

Two short weeks ago he was talking about what a huge disappointment DJ is.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-09-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6248732)
DJ may be an underachiever compared to his draft status, but he's still the best LB we have on the team.

The best players should be playing.

Fifty(three)ways to leave your lover:

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Sweet Daddy Hate 11-09-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6248746)
Two short weeks ago he was talking about what a huge disappointment DJ is.

He skits, scats, and be-bops all over the ****in' place with his opinions. I don't even bother listening to him any more.

Contrarian 11-09-2009 07:21 PM

What cracks me up is Petro talking up DJ saying that he forced a fumble in the game Sunday. No he didn't, he hit the ball out of Holt's hand with his knee falling down.
How is that forcing a fumble? It's not intentionally forcing a fumble.
Go scrape the other nodule off your throat from talking shit you dumbass!

SAUTO 11-09-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Contrarian (Post 6249016)
What cracks me up is Petro talking up DJ saying that he forced a fumble in the game Sunday. No he didn't, he hit the ball out of Holt's hand with his knee falling down.
How is that forcing a fumble? It's not intentionally forcing a fumble.
Go scrape the other nodule off your throat from talking shit you dumbass!

uuummm thats forcing a fumble. always has been.

Just Passin' By 11-09-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 6248644)
The one that sticks out the most right now, is Mike Brown. I don't think any of those three (Goff, Brown, Vrabel etc.), or many of the other players Pioli has brought in, were thought of as being part of the long term plan. There are several others, but I will use Brown.

Prior to the addition of Brown, I think most of us felt this team was in pretty good shape in the secondary, compared to the other segments. It was about the only positive legacy that Herm left IMO. When Herm took this team over, the secondary was pathetic and had been for a while.

Now, they kick a recent 2nd round pick to the curb, in favor of Mike Brown? The same Mike Brown that was let go by the Bears. Why would they do that?

The only plausible explanation, it has to be something like leadership and creating a better climate for building this team. I have seen this same thing happen in the corporate world, short term, sometimes who have to let go of stars, or potential stars to create and atmosphere for team accomplishment.

I know they keep on saying they are trying to win now, and they probably are to an extent. But, I think the Vrabels, Goffs, etc. were brought in as stop gaps, so the atmosphere could be changed.

Oh, and I have no, none experience with football, but in the corporate world, any disrespect of leadership or direction by one of the "players" needs to be dealt with swiftly and firmly.

Thank you very much for the thought out response.

SAUTO 11-09-2009 07:30 PM

and DJ hit holts arm with his left hand not his knee, his knee actually was behind his own arm. i just watched the play again

Oxford 11-09-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6247410)
Pollard whiffed too many tackles and was shitty in coverage.

How many years have we said Pollard goes for the big hit, but cannot tackle. We've seen it in the film, its been beat to death. It is just possible that Pollard got a wake up call with his termination. I think Pioli/Haley value effort and desire higher than athletic ability, and Pollard failed the effort/desire test.

Oxford 11-09-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6249043)
Thank you very much for the thought out response.

Amen to that. Remember that Clark Hunt owns this team, and he is a MBA and has been schooled in the business world. How long has HE thought what the direction of the organization should be and how he would get it there?

Mecca 11-09-2009 08:13 PM

The weight loss stuff sure worked out...it made Albert worse and the team that was slow because it was out of shape is still slow because well it's slow.

The idea that this is working is funny, players are regressing, there is no progress being shown.90% of the playcalling looks like it has to do with protecting Matt Cassel so he doesn't look bad instead of winning games.

And you better care what players think because this team does not offer top dollar in FA so if they all think the Chiefs have a regime they don't want to play for good luck getting anyone to play here.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-09-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6249168)
The weight loss stuff sure worked out...it made Albert worse and the team that was slow because it was out of shape is still slow because well it's slow.

The idea that this is working is funny, players are regressing, there is no progress being shown.90% of the playcalling looks like it has to do with protecting Matt Cassel so he doesn't look bad instead of winning games.

And you better care what players think because this team does not offer top dollar in FA so if they all think the Chiefs have a regime they don't want to play for good luck getting anyone to play here.

"My house was destroyed by flood instead of locust plague; IMPROVEMENT"!!!!!111

splatbass 11-09-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6247518)
i will say though I see more of an effort in the players when Herm was here compared to Haley.

You're kidding, right? They gave up on Herm. They have played hard until the end of every game under Haley.


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