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doomy3 01-11-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436560)
Why give Chapman 5 per when you can give Kendall 3? It's not like Pena, whom you already control for far less money, would be a better option.

Where is the minister of common sense in the offices at the K?

I really don't understand it at all. I have had a lot of conversations with my friend that works with the Royals, and he is in the same place. Said the entire place is just depressed about it.

The word around Kauffman is that somehow Glass LOST money last year, despite having the best attendance in some time. Apparently, he told DM this year that he wasn't going to spend any money on FAs.

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6436568)
I really don't understand it at all. I have had a lot of conversations with my friend that works with the Royals, and he is in the same place. Said the entire place is just depressed about it.

The word around Kauffman is that somehow Glass LOST money last year, despite having the best attendance in some time. Apparently, he told DM this year that he wasn't going to spend any money on FAs.

First, I'd have to see the books to believe that.

But let's say it's true. Not knocking your friend, just saying. Then that makes it all the more important for Moore to make savvy moves. Don't piss down your leg and waste money on Kendall. Make intelligent moves with actual upside, as you suggested.

Back to the initial point, though. If true, Glass has to sell the team. If they move, which I doubt, but if they do, I don't care.

Sure-Oz 01-12-2010 12:05 AM

There is alot of people in Kansas City that would love to cheer the Royals and cheer hard and show up to the games. I think there are alot of people around here that love baseball and want the Royals back...it's been way too damn long. I hope i'm not too old or dead before it happens. Atleast i was 6 when they won the World Series, too bad i didn't give a shit about anything but he-man and gijoe cartoons

doomy3 01-12-2010 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6436575)
First, I'd have to see the books to believe that.

But let's say it's true. Not knocking your friend, just saying. Then that makes it all the more important for Moore to make savvy moves. Don't piss down your leg and waste money on Kendall. Make intelligent moves with actual upside, as you suggested.

Back to the initial point, though. If true, Glass has to sell the team. If they move, which I doubt, but if they do, I don't care.

Agree on all counts. I have argued with him many times about this, and have said it is impossible that he lost money this year, but made money the year before. Makes no sense.

I will say they have fired many of the top paid VPs in the organization though to save money there, so there may be something to this. Something definitely doesn't add up though.

tk13 01-12-2010 12:17 AM

The economy was in the tank. Glass isn't going to go broke tomorrow but I don't find it far fetched at all that decreases in things like advertising, etc. caused the team to not make as much money as the year before.

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 12:18 AM

His received over 100 million in revenue sharing alone. And attendance was up.

If he took a loss, which I doubt, it had to be by a ****ing fraction. Consider it a late bill for previous sins.

Sure-Oz 01-12-2010 12:26 AM

I say the guy try his best to get the best team out there...

this franchise needs to continue to draft well to have any hope, we are ****ed otherwise.

this thread depresses me

doomy3 01-12-2010 12:34 AM

We just better hope that Hosmer and Moosetacos get going. We are going to need them to be legitimate bats. It looks like we could have some decent pitching coming up to add with Greinke, but since we have no idea how to make smart signings for guys with upside in FA, we can't afford to miss on any more draft picks.

Sure-Oz 01-12-2010 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6436661)
We just better hope that Hosmer and Moosetacos get going. We are going to need them to be legitimate bats. It looks like we could have some decent pitching coming up to add with Greinke, but since we have no idea how to make smart signings for guys with upside in FA, we can't afford to miss on any more draft picks.

I would hate to waste Zack, we already wasted what could be his best season ever (not that a drop off would be huge) but last season just doesn't happen all the time

tk13 01-12-2010 12:39 AM

Well with the success baseball has had the last couple years it'd have to be hard to lose money, but I think people greatly underestimate the operating cost of a professional sports franchise.

But I think the $100 million number is a bit exaggerated too though. I'd guess somewhere between 70-80 million? But who really knows, it's all speculation. I was under the impression that they got about 30-35 million from the general revenue sharing and another 30-ish million from the luxury tax. Then consider they spent about $80 million in payroll this year, and blammo.

Wilson8 01-12-2010 03:36 PM

Royals Near Agreement With Paul Carlixte

By Tim Dierkes [January 12 at 3:25pm CST]

Dayton Moore's second "top five" international free agent signing is likely to be Dominican shortstop Paul Carlixte, writes ESPN's Keith Law. Law says the Royals and Carlixte are near an agreement exceeding $1MM.

Law notes irregularities found by MLB's age investigation, but his source says Carlixte is a "great-looking shortstop with soft hands and a very quick bat."

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

gblowfish 01-12-2010 03:38 PM

Is Jose Guillen hurt yet?

DeezNutz 01-12-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6436670)
Well with the success baseball has had the last couple years it'd have to be hard to lose money, but I think people greatly underestimate the operating cost of a professional sports franchise.

But I think the $100 million number is a bit exaggerated too though. I'd guess somewhere between 70-80 million? But who really knows, it's all speculation. I was under the impression that they got about 30-35 million from the general revenue sharing and another 30-ish million from the luxury tax. Then consider they spent about $80 million in payroll this year, and blammo.

It was Stark last year who said that each team was getting approximately $105 million in revenue sharing. Dude's a pretty reputable source.

But, again, who really knows. Since no one will open up the books or dispute the figure, I'm going on the assumption that it's accurate.

BWillie 01-12-2010 03:55 PM

LOL I can't wait to see the Royals lose 100 games. I have been on strike against the Royals, and most specifically Dayton Moore for the last year. I successfully went to zero games last year.

doomy3 01-12-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 6438320)
Royals Near Agreement With Paul Carlixte

By Tim Dierkes [January 12 at 3:25pm CST]

Dayton Moore's second "top five" international free agent signing is likely to be Dominican shortstop Paul Carlixte, writes ESPN's Keith Law. Law says the Royals and Carlixte are near an agreement exceeding $1MM.

Law notes irregularities found by MLB's age investigation, but his source says Carlixte is a "great-looking shortstop with soft hands and a very quick bat."

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

That's good news...


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