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Titty Meat 01-10-2010 07:46 PM

Is Dansby a free agent? If so no reason to draft McClain.

Molitoth 01-10-2010 07:47 PM

I like Berry, but in Pioli I trust (for another season).

Sweet Dick Willy 01-10-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6432760)
I agree. My question is that if he was laying the foundation for future talent to be able to come in and produce by taking a player like TJ, why didnt he also try to improve the OL in a draft where we could have had some good prospects in the middle rounds.

It is strange. Not having a 2nd round pick really ****ed us I think. And I mean that in the sense of just not having the pick, and not "was the trade worth it".

Who knows what goes on in that mans head? :shrug:

RustShack 01-10-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6432654)
ROFL What a stupid thing to say. Woods caught 7 passes in his rookie year.

I'm not talking about their rookie years.. I'm talking about them as prospects at the time. Sorry that I didn't have a time machine like you bra.

Titty Meat 01-10-2010 08:22 PM

The o-line wasn't as bad the last half of the season and all that needs to be upgrade is center & right tackle and dump Waters.

RustShack 01-10-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6432760)
I agree. My question is that if he was laying the foundation for future talent to be able to come in and produce by taking a player like TJ, why didnt he also try to improve the OL in a draft where we could have had some good prospects in the middle rounds.

Pioli builds defense through the draft and offense through free agency and trades.

DeezNutz 01-10-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 6432779)
I like Berry, but in Pioli I trust (for another season).

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...violent072.gif

BossChief 01-10-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6432872)
The o-line wasn't as bad the last half of the season and all that needs to be upgrade is center & right tackle and dump Waters.

I think the oline came together on the exact timeline as Albert coming out of his adjustment period.

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6432878)
Pioli builds defense through the draft and offense through free agency and trades.

Logan Mankins was a first rounder for them
They drafted Matt Light in the second round
They drafted Dan Koppen in the third round
They drafted Nick Kaczur in the third round

They drafted that oline

Mecca 01-10-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6432878)
Pioli builds defense through the draft and offense through free agency and trades.

Is that why New England hasn't drafted any good pass rushers at all?

DeezNutz 01-10-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6432967)
Is that why New England hasn't drafted any good pass rushers at all?

You don't need pass rushers to build an effective 34.

RustShack 01-10-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6432878)
Pioli builds defense through the draft and offense through free agency and trades.

EDIT

For the most part high picks went to the defense.

Brock 01-10-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6432871)
I'm not talking about their rookie years.. I'm talking about them as prospects at the time. Sorry that I didn't have a time machine like you bra.

You don't need a time machine, you need some glasses.

RustShack 01-10-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6433169)
You don't need a time machine, you need some glasses.

Its pretty easy for you to say that now. But anyone who actually pays attention to football and doesn't get blinded by spread stats knew he wasn't an elite prospect. Nothing more than what Jackson was to the 3-4 DE position.

DaneMcCloud 01-10-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6433176)
Its pretty easy for you to say that now. But anyone who actually pays attention to football and doesn't get blinded by spread stats knew he wasn't an elite prospect. Nothing more than what Jackson was to the 3-4 DE position.

Bullshit

BossChief 01-11-2010 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6432791)
It is strange. Not having a 2nd round pick really ****ed us I think. And I mean that in the sense of just not having the pick, and not "was the trade worth it".

Who knows what goes on in that mans head? :shrug:

I just think that what he saw were players that were available to draft because they werent good enough to be NFL starters and thought players at other positions were. Who knows.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6432981)
You don't need pass rushers to build an effective 34.

Baltimore has had a damn good defense without outstanding pass rushers. Terrell Suggs hasnt had double digit sacks since 2004. Adalius Thomas has only had one year where he went over 10 sacks.

New England had a championship caliber defense without outstanding pass rushers. Vrabel has only one year with double digit sacks. They really dont try to get after the qb as a priority over coverage and reaction.

Both teams had OLBs that were effective pass rushers, but added more than just that to the defense. I imagine we will look for similar type players.

Who fits this best?


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