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TheGuardian 06-22-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6836968)
All the UFC guys he's fought have been way past their prime.

The problem is that until just about a year ago, the HW division in MMA was absolute garbage. Now it's getting better, and is the strongest its ever been.

Shit even Fedor is trying to duck from fighting Oversteem because of Roid issues? Even though he tested clean? The entire Fedor camp is a ****ing joke. Until he fights in the UFC, his legacy will continue to deminish IMO. That's where the good guys fight, and when they're no longer good, they no longer fight in the UFC.

Oversteem? Who the **** is Oversteem?

Ohhhh you mean Alistair Overeem? This is why you bundle of stickss should stop posting about MMA. You don't have a god damned clue about who and what you're talking about. And don't chalk this up to a misspelling. You don't know enough about it to know his ****ing last name. maybe if you got Brock's nuts off of your chin you could see the computer screen better.

ArrowheadHawk 06-22-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6836992)
again look at the guys he's beaten and when he beat them

big nog 3 times in the day
cro cop
herring(when he was good)
goodridge
mark hunt
it's a GREAT list

i cant help the fact that you didnt see any of his fights. look them up sometime, if you arent impressed then i dont know what else to say

Big nog was 6-7 years ago. Cro Cop is ok but he hasn't exactly lived up to his hype since joining the UFC. Herring is a good win but that was 8 years ago. Goodridge is only a .500 fighter and mark hunt has a losing record. I have no doubt that Fedor is a bad ass. Just how much of a bad ass is up for debate until/if he is willing to fight the fighters who are at the top currently.

RNR 06-22-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6837118)
Oversteem? Who the **** is Oversteem?

Ohhhh you mean Alistair Overeem? This is why you pillowbiters should stop posting about MMA. You don't have a god damned clue about who and what you're talking about. And don't chalk this up to a misspelling. You don't know enough about it to know his ****ing last name. maybe if you got Brock's nuts off of your chin you could see the computer screen better.

You may very well know more than this guy about MMA. That said why do you always come off so strong? Not only this subject but over several replies I have read from you. You and I have bumped heads before because I disagreed with something you said and your reply was full blown attack. Just wondering really, not looking to engage in a war of words. You just often come off pissed off just because someone sees something different than you do~

SAUTO 06-22-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6837137)
Big nog was 6-7 years ago. Cro Cop is ok but he hasn't exactly lived up to his hype since joining the UFC. Herring is a good win but that was 8 years ago. Goodridge is only a .500 fighter and mark hunt has a losing record. I have no doubt that Fedor is a bad ass. Just how much of a bad ass is up for debate until/if he is willing to fight the fighters who are at the top currently.

he beat all those guys in their prime, that was my point. again i understand that you didnt see many pride fights BUT the same goes for you as como. i have steered you in the right direction. now go watch the fights and IMO you will see.

fedor has it all, he can beat you in any way, hell in all ways.
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Duck Dog 06-22-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6836888)
You are most likely to young to remember Clay/Ali in his prime. He was an arrogant, brash, disrespectful asshole. He was hated and rightfully so. He admitted he molded himself after Gorgeous George a famous pro wrestler from the 50s. He was a womanizing draft dodging blowhard and his religious conversion was laughable. It was amusing to watch the reinvention of Ali into the beloved hero he is thought of today. He sold more pay for view and tickets to people who wanted nothing more than to see him get his lippy ass kicked. It is an age old shtick and Lesnar is proving as is Mayweather is in boxing that it still sells today~

Amen. Whites are still intimadated by that jerk.

Duck Dog 06-22-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6836896)
It definitely sells, there's no doubt about that. As you noted, a lot of people will buy just to see if Lesnar gets crushed. I'm one of them. I wanted to see him get smashed into oblivion and I find it hard to fathom how anyone could root for the guy. I could understand how back in the day the black community could get behind Ali. But Lesnar isn't a minority with racial tensions in the air. He's just an asshole. And I can't wait to watch Carwin cave his face in.

I am one of these people.

Duck Dog 06-22-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6836025)
This.

Fedor would crush Lesnar.

Fedor's resume is unquestionable but I refuse to give him his due respect until he fights the best the UFC has to offer.

TheGuardian 06-22-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6837142)
You may very well know more than this guy about MMA. That said why do you always come off so strong? Not only this subject but over several replies I have read from you. You and I have bumped heads before because I disagreed with something you said and your reply was full blown attack. Just wondering really, not looking to engage in a war of words. You just often come off pissed off just because someone sees something different than you do~

Because dude has tried to pass himself off as a "I know it all" MMA guy then doesn't even have the overall knowledge to even know the names of the guys he is talking about. And he has Lesnar chin nuts. that's bad enough all by itself.

TheGuardian 06-22-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Dog (Post 6837182)
Fedor's resume is unquestionable but I refuse to give him his due respect until he fights the best the UFC has to offer.

The HW division looks more stacked but the truth is, we're not 100% sure how good a lot of these guys really are. Fedor beat enough guys in their prime that his ability should never be in question. He doesn't need to beat a 1 dimensional fat guy in Lesnar to prove he's great to me. He's submitted or knocked out almost everyone he's fought and outside of 1 BS ruling, is undefeated.

Would I like to see Fedor in UFC? Definitely. But if he never comes to UFC it doesn't diminish him as the greatest HW fighter ever to me.

RNR 06-22-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6837245)
Because dude has tried to pass himself off as a "I know it all" MMA guy then doesn't even have the overall knowledge to even know the names of the guys he is talking about. And he has Lesnar chin nuts. that's bad enough all by itself.

It is cool with me, we started rocky but seem to be ok now. Just seeing where your head is at. Been hangin here on and off for years. I get along with most~

CoMoChief 06-22-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6837118)
Oversteem? Who the **** is Oversteem?

Ohhhh you mean Alistair Overeem? This is why you pillowbiters should stop posting about MMA. You don't have a god damned clue about who and what you're talking about. And don't chalk this up to a misspelling. You don't know enough about it to know his ****ing last name. maybe if you got Brock's nuts off of your chin you could see the computer screen better.

Oops.....cry me a ****ing river.

Guess I shouldnt watch MMA .....got someone's name wrong. :rolleyes:

You know how many people on here get FOOTBALL players names wrong you ****ing moron?

CoMoChief 06-22-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6837245)
Because dude has tried to pass himself off as a "I know it all" MMA guy then doesn't even have the overall knowledge to even know the names of the guys he is talking about. And he has Lesnar chin nuts. that's bad enough all by itself.

When have I ever said I was a know it all MMA guy.

I can tell you how this fight is going to go......so can about a million other people.

Carwin will look to knockout Lesnar.....because standing up w/ him is really his only chance. Carwin obviously is the better striker.

But Brock will take the fight to the ground, because (gasp) that's his bread and butter and that's what gives him the best chance to win, esp w/ a guy like Carwin. Lesnar controls the fight on the ground and grounds and pounds....thats what he does, and once that happens, Brock's gonna end up winning the fight. People think this is going to last only in the first rd. I don't think it will be that way, because I dont think Lesnar will get knocked out because he wont let the fight stand up right. He will take it to the ground as soon as the bell rings.

Doesn't take some MMA nut to figure that one out. You're ****ing dumber than I thought.

MadMax 06-22-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6835925)
So if you're wrong I guess that makes you a whole ass.




Then so be it. You have shown yourself to be a permanent asshole. You seem to "think" you know more than you actually do. Good luck with that :)

Duck Dog 06-22-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6837252)
The HW division looks more stacked but the truth is, we're not 100% sure how good a lot of these guys really are. Fedor beat enough guys in their prime that his ability should never be in question. He doesn't need to beat a 1 dimensional fat guy in Lesnar to prove he's great to me. He's submitted or knocked out almost everyone he's fought and outside of 1 BS ruling, is undefeated.

Would I like to see Fedor in UFC? Definitely. But if he never comes to UFC it doesn't diminish him as the greatest HW fighter ever to me.

I'm cool with that.

RNR 06-22-2010 09:13 PM

Well guys and gals it is 28 to 28, Carwin jumped to a big lead but it has evened up~


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