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OnTheWarpath15 07-23-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6895527)
I still wonder how much of Bowe's "drops" problem is Cassel-related. Bowe wasn't the only receiver dropping passes.

FAX

Again, drops are a subjective stat.

If the ball is thrown well behind Bowe, and he has to attempt a circus catch and fails, is that a drop?

It shouldn't be.

Are the decision makers checking replays to see if the defender got a piece of the ball, or are they going on what they see at full speed?

I can think of 2 or 3 instances last year where people here got pissy over a supposed drop and the replay showed the defender getting a hand on the ball.

Reerun_KC 07-23-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6895523)
I don't disagree.

However, from a coach's point of view, there is more to the evaluation process than a long-distance assessment of which player is "better" from a talent perspective, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. I mean, they have to know the playbook, practice with consistency, prove their ability to deal with adversity, etc.

Although I've disagreed with many of the current regime's player decisions (particularly in respect to the o-line), I have to admit that I lack a complete, comprehensive picture of those players' ability to contribute.

It reasonable to assume that, for every thing we think we know about a player, there are ten things we don't know.

FAX

:eek:

That was a bold statement, considering some feel their opinion is fact....

RedThat 07-23-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6895537)
Again, drops are a subjective stat.

If the ball is thrown well behind Bowe, and he has to attempt a circus catch and fails, is that a drop?

It shouldn't be.

Are the decision makers checking replays to see if the defender got a piece of the ball, or are they going on what they see at full speed?

I can think of 2 or 3 instances last year where people here got pissy over a supposed drop and the replay showed the defender getting a hand on the ball.

There are really a lot of factors to consider to determine whether it was the QB's fault or the WRs fault for the dropped passes. I agree with you on this.

Reerun_KC 07-23-2010 08:32 PM

Also, would be cool to see Pollard make a Pro Bowler...

RedThat 07-23-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6895542)
Also, would be cool to see Pollard make a Pro Bowler...

no no no no no...it would make me feel miserable.

Reerun_KC 07-23-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6895544)
no no no no no...it would make me feel miserable.

Nah, no need to cry over what is done...

Hammock Parties 07-23-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6895521)
The drops are so blown out of proportion.

IIRC, in 2008, Marques Colston had 2 fewer drops than Bowe.

I doubt anyone would be ragging his ass over it.

Who's talking about 2008?

Bowe had 9 drops last year. Only 47 catches.

Colston had 10 drops, 70 catches.

Johnson had 10 drops, 101 catches.

Either way I'm more worried about Bowe's off the field behavior. If that keeps up Pioli will be completely justified in dumping DumBowe.

RedThat 07-23-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6895492)
Bernard Pollard was NO team captain.

Uh huh..Exactly!!

KCBOSS1 07-23-2010 08:39 PM

I liked him too. He got beat some, but he was a kid. He hit like crazy.

RedThat 07-23-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6895547)
Nah, no need to cry over what is done...

I know...I hope Kendrick Lewis will come through for us though. That would make up for the loss of Pollard.:D

Reerun_KC 07-23-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6895560)
I know...I hope Kendrick Lewis will come through for us though. That would make up for the loss of Pollard.:D

Well see. This is going to be an exciting year, I cant wait for that monday night!!!!!

OnTheWarpath15 07-23-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6895554)
Who's talking about 2008?

Bowe had 9 drops last year. Only 47 catches.

Colston had 10 drops, 70 catches.

Johnson had 10 drops, 101 catches.

Either way I'm more worried about Bowe's off the field behavior. If that keeps up Pioli will be completely justified in dumping DumBowe.

He's been chastised for drops since we drafted him.

Just pointing out that premier WR's drop the ball at a similar rate.

Not sure why you'd be surprised that his drop rate rose while Haley was constantly up his ass.

BossChief 07-23-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6895554)
Who's talking about 2008?

Bowe had 9 drops last year. Only 47 catches.

Colston had 10 drops, 70 catches.

Johnson had 10 drops, 101 catches.

Either way I'm more worried about Bowe's off the field behavior. If that keeps up Pioli will be completely justified in dumping DumBowe.

how many of those drops can you objectively say were the fault of Cassel?

2? 3? 4?

Id say 3 and that would make his average a lot more on par with those guys.

OnTheWarpath15 07-23-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6895560)
I know...I hope Kendrick Lewis will come through for us though. That would make up for the loss of Pollard.:D

Picture a slower Mike Brown (2009, not Brown in his prime) but with better instincts.

That's Kendrick Lewis.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6895568)
He's been chastised for drops since we drafted him.

Just pointing out that premier WR's drop the ball at a similar rate.

Not sure why you'd be surprised that his drop rate rose while Haley was constantly up his ass.

Well, this is just me, but I never had a problem with Bowe's apparent "butterfingers" before last year, because he was caught 86 balls in 08.

Catch only 47, and miss 5 games, and it's a problem.


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