Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6975216)

I don't think the Eagles are very good anyway.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6974229)

I don't know that I totally agree with this.

If he gains you 10 yards per change of possession, it's like adding a sack in there. Look at the bust rate of your average 2nd rounder and we're getting a better ROI than most.

On the other hand, there are always going to be exceptions to the generalities. In general, a game-breaking returner in the 2nd round is better than most teams will get. However, when you don't have a NT and your LBs are sub-standard, and there are 2 legitimate LBs that have a chance to be gamebreakers in your scheme, as well as a NT that has fallen nearly a full round, you have to go with the LB or the NT.

In general, I have no problem with a 2nd rounder that would yield the kind of impact that Arenas could in our return game. However, when combined with the McCluster pick and in light of the players available and our weaknesses on the team, it was not a good decision.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6975176)

First off, guards rarely go in the first round. Secondly, he was a right guard in college. If the Chiefs were going to draft a right guard, why sign Lilja to play right guard?



And which team was that? It certainly wasn't Atlanta. It certainly wasn't Tampa Bay. Green Bay didn't play their starters on offense and Philly has a young first year starting QB.

Teams ran at will when they chose to run against the Chiefs first team. Hell, Tampa Bay of all teams moved the ball up and down the first in the first quarter and a half against the Chiefs first teamers.

You are seeing things that just aren't there. Either that, or you're unfamiliar with the opposing starters.

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6975607)

A decent qb could win 8-10 games with the schedule/ talent we have.

I wish we weren't married to matt cassel

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 6975620)

All im going to say is that Arenas and McCluster wouldnt look like such bad picks had we picked up Sanchez or another "franchise" qb guy..

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6975645)

Exactly. And the QB was Pioli's **** up for sure. But have we improved outside the QB? Yes, we have.

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 6976000)

I've got to say I'm surprised at how much people are upset by us taking McCluster and Arenas in the second round, but I don't hear much about how little we're getting out of our two FIRST rounders Dorsey and Jackson. I haven't seen anything even close to second round production out of those two. We could have taken "second round talent" instead of those guys and had better players in the end.

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 6976000)

I've got to say I'm surprised at how much people are upset by us taking McCluster and Arenas in the second round, but I don't hear much about how little we're getting out of our two FIRST rounders Dorsey and Jackson. I haven't seen anything even close to second round production out of those two. We could have taken "second round talent" instead of those guys and had better players in the end.

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6976001)

We've come to expect high-round, D-line FAIL?

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6976004)

Dude, your avatar cracks me up. The biggest "kid-cereal" flop EVAH!