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HemiEd 11-17-2010 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7178272)
No, you didn't.

Watch his first pass attempt of the game. He throws it before the receiver has even turned around

Watch him on the sack-fumble that led to the defensive TD. He never sees the blitzer, nor does he stop from doing anything than looking at his primary receiver.

Watch him on any number of roll outs. The play that we almost exclusively run with Moeaki is a single read throw with a lot of noise. He never even attempts to go anywhere else with the ball. It's always a PA fake, a roll out, and a throw to Moeaki on the drag route.

You don't have to make reads against a prevent defense. That's why anyone can play against it. Everyone is back 12 yards, and as a result, everyone is open short. Thus, a series of short-intermediate throws over the middle of the field to wide open receivers who are held from large gains by the 4 deep shell.

When he had to "make reads" in the first half, he routinely shit himself and took a number of unnecessary sacks because he can't read a defense.

Stat lines =/= quality of play.

Exactly, and there is enough film out there on him, he is no longer surprising anyone. They can tee off on his tendancies.

HemiEd 11-17-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Estron (Post 7178394)
I'm inclined to think this, after several weeks of reading here.

If Matt Cassel were to call a press conference tomorrow and announce that he was resigning from football, effective immediately AND donating what he's already been paid to widows and orphans, the guys on CP would be posting, "Not enough. He should commit suicide. In the stadium. On camera."

Try us, please Matt!

LiL stumppy 11-17-2010 12:57 AM

i would love to see him be a good nfl QB.

but, IT WONT HAPPEN.

Jesus Christ he sucks, if you think he is decent you are a ****ing moron. Watch the games over, see how many people he over throws, how he holds on to the balls..

It pisses me off just thinking about it

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-17-2010 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy (Post 7178649)
i would love to see him be a good nfl QB.

but, IT WONT HAPPEN.

Jesus Christ he sucks, if you think he is decent you are a ****ing moron. Watch the games over, see how many people he over throws, how he holds on to the balls..

It pisses me off just thinking about it

This.

I have seen enough. There is no more tale to tell. Flush, please.

patteeu 11-17-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7178288)
If he throws the ****ing ball away instead of taking a sack that will get me to calm my dislike of his QB skills.

Did you watch the first five games of the season? He did that with regularity.

notorious 11-17-2010 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7178705)
Did you watch the first five games of the season? He did that with regularity.

So what in the hell has happened in the last 3? He gets flushed out of the pocket, but instead of doing what a HS QB would do and throw it away, he takes the damn sack.

Reerun_KC 11-17-2010 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7178708)
So what in the hell has happened in the last 3? He gets flushed out of the pocket, but instead of doing what a HS QB would do and throw it away, he takes the damn sack.

Dexter McCluster.

notorious 11-17-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7178714)
Dexter McCluster.

.....This is a large portion.

the Talking Can 11-17-2010 07:38 AM

why would anyone like a $63 million dollar game manager being passed off as a Franchise QB to a fanbase that hasn't sniffed a superbowl in decades?

what kind of self-hating idiot would continue in the belief that we don't deserve a real god damn QB for once in our sorry ****ing lives?

I mean really, after sticking your fingers up your butts and pretending that QB isn't the #1 reason we've blown ass for decades, after almost 27 years since we botched the draft and took Blackledge, we haven't made a single serious attempt to acquire and develop a QB instead preferring every used car demo program model piece of warmed over low risk low reward shit...to the never ending cheers of the Fanbase as it is represented by the stevierays and dented-skull types like patteau

the question is why would anyone 'like' a QB that everyone knows isn't good enough?

you don't watch the good QBs in the league and say to yourself, "why aren't we drafting a QB every single ****ing year until we get one of those?!?"

why isn't the only god damn objective of this team since FOREVER to do anything to acquire THAT QB, no matter how many failures it takes?

This franchise isn't doing jack shit until it gets the QB position figured out. You can draft midget scat backs and punt returners from now until the next Elvis Bono comes...

notorious 11-17-2010 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7178740)
say to yourself, "why aren't we drafting a QB every single ****ing year until we get one of those?!?"

...

This.

the Talking Can 11-17-2010 07:52 AM

Matt Cassel can get on a flaming aids Segway and ride off a cliff.


And so can all of his fans.

ChiefsCountry 11-17-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7178745)
Matt Cassel can get on a flaming aids Segway and ride off a cliff.


And so can all of his fans.

This.

patteeu 11-17-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7178535)
Our defense has played well enough this year that we could be 7-2.

So has Matt Cassel.

The Bad Guy 11-17-2010 08:17 AM

I really dont know how you pin the Raider loss squarely on Cassel. When they got the break, he hit Bowe on the TD. The defense failed to hold leads against the Texans and Raiders.

The Colts loss though, was squarely on him.

patteeu 11-17-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7178708)
So what in the hell has happened in the last 3? He gets flushed out of the pocket, but instead of doing what a HS QB would do and throw it away, he takes the damn sack.

I don't know what all has happened although one thing that's happened is that the offensive line has played poorly. I'd imagine that both Cassel and the defensive lines he's faced share the rest of the blame. Instead, it seems like the CP conventional wisdom is that it's all Cassel, despite the solid play in this regard that he demonstrated in the first 5 games.


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