I told Holthus last night that I want "revenge" and a win against the Donks, but I really want to sweep SD...that's the game right there.

I don't give a crap what anyone thinks of my opinion of Cassel. The Chiefs will go as Cassel goes over these next 5 games. If he struggles the team will struggle. If he excels, the team will excel. Neither one means they will go 5-0 or 0-5. The pressure is on him and the team right now as the playoffs have already started for the Chiefs.

I don't agree. You have your homers who drank the kool-aid all season long but are just speaking louder today.

Everyone else is cautiously optimistic. The reason he's getting rave reviews for the past two weeks is how he did it. The Chiefs put up tons of points against SF and Jax, but I don't think Cassel was stellar in either of those games. The way he put up points against Arizona and Seattle was a completely different QB than one we've seen in those 1 1/2 years and yes, even his productive season in NE.

Denver is a floundering team right now, in large part because of a lot of internal problems, and we should absolutely piss pound them at Arrowhead.

Cassel will need to play well in SD. Not doing so should be grounds for legitimate criticism because this will, essentially, be a playoff game for this team. All players, especially our most important ones, will need to elevate their game.

I expect to see the best from the likes of Bowe, Charles, Cassel, etc.

Is he the big spoon or the little spoon?

...just like Peyton did against the Chargers...at home.

When did Rex Grossman have a stretch of 18-1 TD's to INT? Florida?

No, it hasn't.

Cassel has looked like a completely different QB starting with the 2nd half of the Denver game.

Anyone who knows anything about football and the QB position can determine this easily.

Like I said, if you're looking for him to do those things THIS season, He's going to let you down...or prove you right, however you want to word it.

I don't think he's that far developed yet. I expect him to do those things next season.

22 td's and 4 ints. He developing into a good game manager. He's taking the step from dogshit to game manager.

Hopefully next season he can take the step from game manger to "THE MAN".

But the standard has to be clear. We have to get on Cassel's case for the right reasons.

Because an unfair standard is to expect him to continually carry a bad defense and special teams unit and expect him to consistently win games. I ripped on Cassel for his performance against Denver--thought he didn't make plays when he needed to. On the other hand, I think a LOT of people were very unfairly critical of Cassel's performance in Oakland even though the Chiefs got crushed in the running game, on defense, on special teams, and with stupid penalty mistakes. So I don't agree that it's fair to say that we go as Cassel goes. Cassel needs to be sharp in the remaining games, but if he's sharp and the defense gives up 30+ points, there's only so far you can take the blame.

sure you do.. you keep repeating it...and you expect him to overcome subpar play from the rest of the squad. in year two of a rebuild...:rolleyes:

excel, despite like the defense played against Houston?

hey matt, the defense just gave up four consecutive TD's in the forth qtr....it's your fault if we lose.

...yup, because every franchise QB on a legit team doeasn't struggle, ever.

Oh ok. Youre right....I just asked everyone who knew and they told me you were correct and Cassel sucks, Pioli is a moron etc...

I will never question you again.

I agree that San Diego is a huge test for Cassel but I also believe that if he fails, that doesn't mean that he won't get "it" later this year or before next season.

Like I mentioned earlier, the guy was on the roster at USC and with the Patriots but he hasn't been put in that type of a situation before. He's getting better each week but it won't shock me if he falters because he's really never been in "playoff" type atmosphere in college or the NFL. He may not be prepared for that type of pressure.

If he doesn't perform at a higher level in San Diego but comes back to play at a high level against the final three opponents, I'll have more faith in him the next time he's put in that situation. He's still got a lot to learn but he's most certainly heading in the right direction.

Hopefully, he'll kick ass in San Diego and this entire conversation will be for naught.

No offense, Steve, but that's ridiculous, and you know it.

Peyton Manning answered all the questions we have about Cassel in his rookie year, and is nothing less than a Top 5 QB in the history of the NFL.

Sorry, but he gets the benefit of the doubt for having a bad game or two every three years.

Maybe if Cassel shows, just once, that he can do any of the things Manning has been doing consistently for over a decade, you can make that comment again, and I'll only snicker instead of laughing so hard it hurts.