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Chiefaholic 02-05-2011 08:18 PM

The sale of Pujols/Cardinal merchandise alone will more than make up for his contract. PAY THE MAN ALREADY!!!

Rams Fan 02-05-2011 08:29 PM

Is it time to panic yet?

Frazod 02-05-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7409219)
Is it time to panic yet?

There's no way this doesn't get done.

But if it doesn't, we just became the Royals East. And as poorly as this team has been run over the past couple of years, we may be there whether we keep Albert or not.

Rams Fan 02-05-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409233)
There's no way this doesn't get done.

But if it doesn't, we just became the Royals East. And as poorly as this team has been run over the past couple of years, we may be there whether we keep Albert or not.

Okay, now I'm even more worried a deal doesn't get done. I just don't see any team out there(Red Sox and Yankees included) who could make an offer to Pujols while making sense for the team.

Jerm 02-05-2011 08:41 PM

Would the Cubs dare make an offer?

It is hard to see anyone offering him the type of money he wants in FA.

Rams Fan 02-05-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 7409251)
Would the Cubs dare make an offer?

It is hard to see anyone offering him the type of money he wants in FA.

I highly doubt it. If Pena hits at all(and can stay healthy), they can resign him for less than they would Pujols.

BigRedChief 02-05-2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7409139)
FML.

Just give him whatever he wants. How could Mozeliak be that ****ing bad at his job? How could anyone be that bad at any job?

Don't you think it's Dewitt that makes the decision on how much to give Pujols?

Frazod 02-05-2011 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 7409251)
Would the Cubs dare make an offer?

It is hard to see anyone offering him the type of money he wants in FA.

I've heard that the Cubs are the most likely landing spot for him. Don't remember where I heard that, but **** that would be a disaster of Ruthian proportions if it happened.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-05-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409540)
Don't you think it's Dewitt that makes the decision on how much to give Pujols?

Who is the one doing the negotiating?

Mozeliak's job is to run the baseball operation. I don't know how he could go to his boss and honestly say that letting Pujols walk in free agency is worth it, or that there is a price too high to pay.

Look at what losing LeBron did to the value of the Cavs. It reduced that franchise's value by 24%. That's well over $100 million.

When you factor in the merchandise, the fact that you can recoup some of the cost through tickets, and the additional attendance you'll get for fielding a better club, not to mention keeping him as a St. Louis icon, there is no reason why this shouldn't be done.

BigRedChief 02-05-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409550)
I've heard that the Cubs are the most likely landing spot for him. Don't remember where I heard that, but **** that would be a disaster of Ruthian proportions if it happened.

A friggin Armaggedon disaster.:doh!:

Rams Fan 02-05-2011 11:22 PM

For all we know, the negotiating deadline could be pure BS. Also, I don't see any teams out there that would make sense for them to sign Albert(except maybe the Cubs).

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-05-2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7409574)
For all we know, the negotiating deadline could be pure BS. Also, I don't see any teams out there that would make sense for them to sign Albert(except maybe the Cubs).

The Angels would ship Morales out of there so fast his ****ing head would spin.

The Sox or Yankees could sign him and have him platoon at first and DH with Gonzalez and Texeira.

The White Sox could potentially add him as a power bat.

The Mets would open up the floodgates.

The Cubs would do anything to stick it to the Cardinals like that.

BigRedChief 02-05-2011 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7409563)
Who is the one doing the negotiating?

Mozeliak's job is to run the baseball operation. I don't know how he could go to his boss and honestly say that letting Pujols walk in free agency is worth it, or that there is a price too high to pay.

Look at what losing LeBron did to the value of the Cavs. It reduced that franchise's value by 24%. That's well over $100 million.

When you factor in the merchandise, the fact that you can recoup some of the cost through tickets, and the additional attendance you'll get for fielding a better club, not to mention keeping him as a St. Louis icon, there is no reason why this shouldn't be done.

hey your preaching to the choir. I say give him $300 million for 10 years if thats what it takes. The Cardinals will make that money back easily. To see him in a Cubs uniform....I'll give Dewiit some money if that is what it takes.

Rams Fan 02-05-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7409597)
The Angels would ship Morales out of there so fast his ****ing head would spin.

The Sox or Yankees could sign him and have him platoon at first and DH with Gonzalez and Texeira.

The White Sox could potentially add him as a power bat.

The Mets would open up the floodgates.

The Cubs would do anything to stick it to the Cardinals like that.

It doesn't make sense for the Yankees to sign Albert, he's said repeatedly he does not like playing DH. Red Sox could make sense if they don't resign Gonzalez, which IMO, would be a bad decision. Haven't thought about the White Sox as a landing spot, but they can just keep Dunn at 1B and sign someone to DH. The Mets owner is looking to sell 25% of the franchise and has lost a lot of money in recent years. The Cubs could make sense, but they are still paying that awful contract to Soriano.

BigRedChief 02-05-2011 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7409605)
It doesn't make sense for the Yankees to sign Albert, he's said repeatedly he does not like playing DH. Red Sox could make sense if they don't resign Gonzalez, which IMO, would be a bad decision. Haven't thought about the White Sox as a landing spot, but they can just keep Dunn at 1B and sign someone to DH. The Mets owner is looking to sell 25% of the franchise and has lost a lot of money in recent years. The Cubs could make sense, but they are still paying that awful contract to Soriano.

You can't just dismiss the marketing aspect of this. He's the big dog in baseball. He will start breaking records in the next couple of years. Thats some serious marketing appeal.


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