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milkman 09-07-2011 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7884723)
A better QB can cure everything. TJax will be a force against the run, WRs will get open, Richardson won't be a swinging gate, short yardage runs won't be stuffed, etc.
What was the Patriot defensive ranking last year?

Who was their RT?

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884594)
I think the talent on this roster is capable of competing with most of the teams in the league.

67% of games last season were decided by a touchdown or less.

That's one or two plays a game that decide the outcome.

This team's fortunes, as I've said numerous times, lies squarely on Cassel.

The plays he makes, or fails to make, could be the difference between 10-6 or 6-10.
Most of it does rely on Cassel, I dont argue that. But I do argue that this team cant afford mistakes and still win...

IE the Indy game last year... Being at that game, We were very competitive, but take away Charles fumbles, Bowes TD drop and DJ's dropped pick six and its a totally different game.

That was a perfect example of not being able to over come mistakes... But over the course of the year, most of the critical situations comes down to Cassel.

At this point to me its the glass half full with Cassel, It could be better and it could be so much worse.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884713)
you're the king butt hurt Cassel white knight....you own that


and the truth remains...the only difference between us and those "good" teams is QB...

if Brady played for us, and Cassel played for New England...we'd be the 'good' team...same for Rothelessburger...same for Green Bay...same for anyone

but thankfully, according to you, Cassel is awesome...so we're Golden
:clap: Dude you are on a roll today...

Now I am Cassels White Knight?

:LOL:

and since you are adding racism to your posts, does this make you Herms Black Knight?

Pasta Little Brioni 09-07-2011 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884728)
What was the Patriot defensive ranking last year?

Who was their RT?
To add to that...boy that Packer run game sure was fearsome as well as thier O-line play.

milkman 09-07-2011 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7884744)
To add to that...boy that Packer run game sure was fearsome as well as thier O-line play.
Right.

Bottom line is this.

A good QB can't cure everything, but he can mask a lot of deficiencies, and in this era of parody and salary caps, every team has holes.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884750)
Right.

Bottom line is this.

A good QB can't cure everything, but he can mask a lot of deficiencies, and in this era of parody and salary caps, every team has holes.
Thats why there are only a handful of great teams, then there is everybody else..

Either you have one of the top few QB's or youre just another team...

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:24 PM
And right now, KC is just another team...

HemiEd 09-07-2011 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 7884646)
Yeah, it was a bad draft, yet it was still better than many of the Peterson era drafts plus, 2009 has proven to be a bad draft for many teams. You are right, Pioli owns the 2009 draft, but I don't think it is a good representation of what we will see in the future. I believe the 2010 &11 drafts are a better representation. Under Pioli and the new scouting department they just seem to be more prepared and informed. Plus, they are not looking for the best talent they are looking for the right talent, which tells me they have a template. Scouting can me much easier when you know what you are looking to find.
Can't argue with that. Also, this year told me that they really do have a plan, instead of just doing the "cookie cutter" plan of getting a bunch of nice young men together (team captains). It showed me that they built a core of leaders, and good guys, and are willing to add some questionable high value/high ceiling guys, that aren't choir boys.

I love what is going on, and am still firmly on the bandwagon for the 43rd year.

But people that think playing Green Bay is the same as playing Arizona puzzle me. It is not the same, and should not be graded the same.

Bump 09-07-2011 12:41 PM
I wouldn't say Baldwin is anywhere near the athletic ability of Fitzgerald. Fitz will be top 10 of all time with shitty quarterbacks (except an old Kurt Warner).

the Talking Can 09-07-2011 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884735)
:clap: Dude you are on a roll today...

Now I am Cassels White Knight?

:LOL:

and since you are adding racism to your posts, does this make you Herms Black Knight?
?

do you drink?

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884805)
?

do you drink?
Yes but not at work....:thumb:

How about you? You a beer man or a Whiskey man?

the Talking Can 09-07-2011 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884812)
Yes but not at work....:thumb:

How about you? You a beer man or a Whiskey man?
oh..you don't know what white knight means....got it


i was wondering how dumb someone had to be, to find it racist...now i know

HemiEd 09-07-2011 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7884802)
I wouldn't say Baldwin is anywhere near the athletic ability of Fitzgerald. Fitz will be top 10 of all time with shitty quarterbacks (except an old Kurt Warner).
Seeing Bowe in person, last week in Green Bay, gave me a lot of confidence in what Haley can do with a WR.

I know, woulda and shoulda etc. , but Bowe was nails in that game, that was decided and given away by 5 stupid turnovers. None of those were his fault, and he made the tackle, after running the guy down from behind, that picked up a Jamaal Charles fumble.

I think this team is just fine in the WR department, and I don't recall ever being able to say that. They may be able to overcome Cassel's 20% target rate.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884821)
oh..you don't know what white knight means....got it


i was wondering how dumb someone had to be, to find it racist...now i know

:facepalm:

Well that pretty much left me speachless... I dont have anything to say, nor can I help you out here anymore.

It was fun while it lasted... PM me your address and I will send you some new batteries for your sarcasm meter...

Mr. Laz 09-07-2011 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 7884704)
The way I look at it is as simple as we only have 2 games different than everyone else in the AFC West, that's it. If we beat the second place AFC West team twice that makes up for any disadvantage we have in the 2 possibly harder games.
That still doesn't change the discussion about the Chiefs overall record being worse but the team being better this year.

I imagine the records in the AFC West are going to be lower as a hole this year.

anything can happen, but i see the Chargers as the only team with double digit wins in the AFCW this year. Only because i think they have finally had enough with underachieving label every year.


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