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Ugly Duck 12-04-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8127699)
I would like to find a way for Oakland not to win the division, but it looks like they have a strong chance.

Its happened.... its here. Amazing but true.... Denver has just grabbed the inside track on the division. Who wudda thunk it? Raiders were dominated on both sides of the line in Miami. Dolphins thrashed them in every phase of the game. Broncos pulled off yet another miracle - gave up 500 yards to the Minnesota Ponders.... & yet still managed to win. They lead the division on tiebreakers, 3-2 in the AFCW & 6-3 in the conference. Raiders will lose @Packers next week, Broncos are in the driver's seat. In the preseason, I picked Denver to wallow in the AFCW cellar. Shows how much I know. Now we must all admit.... the Denver Freakin Broncos, with Tim Fuggin Tebow under center, are in control of the AFC West. Its a turvy, topsy world....

Mile High Mania 12-05-2011 05:28 AM

So, here we are...

Broncos 7-5 / 3-2 div - currently hold the tiebreakers over OAK
Raiders 7-5 / 2-2 div

Raiders remaining: @ GBP / DET / @ KCC / SDC
Broncos remaining: CHI / NEP / @ BUF / KCC


Denver has 3 of their final 4 at home, which is sweet. The Raiders travel to Green Bay this week and then they host the Lions, I dig it.

I hope the Broncos don't toy around with the beaten down Bears, that would be a letdown of monumental proportions. The Patriots in 2 weeks... that's huge and after watching Ponder yesterday, the secondary better get ready.

Mile High Mania 12-05-2011 05:50 AM

Four more games to go... but, if the season ended today - Denver would be the #4 seed and hosting #5 Steelers in the WildCard Round.

That's kinda crazy...

MMXcalibur 12-05-2011 06:13 AM

Denver sucks.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-05-2011 06:14 AM

Boy, if the Raiders don't win the West this year, the Palmer trade will be colossal Fail. Granted, I think the trade is fail anyways....unless you win a Super Bowl, which I don't think happens. But, if they don't even win THIS division? Pathetic.

Mile High Mania 12-05-2011 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8171355)
Boy, if the Raiders don't win the West this year, the Palmer trade will be colossal Fail. Granted, I think the trade is fail anyways....unless you win a Super Bowl, which I don't think happens. But, if they don't even win THIS division? Pathetic.

Yeah, that's a lot of picks to use for a win now on an older beaten QB... if you don't win now.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-05-2011 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8171366)
Yeah, that's a lot of picks to use for a win now on an older beaten QB... if you don't win now.

It will be interesting to see what happens over the final three weeks of the season if they get blown out by GB and the Broncos are able to beat the Bears.

Mile High Mania 12-05-2011 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8171368)
It will be interesting to see what happens over the final three weeks of the season if they get blown out by GB and the Broncos are able to beat the Bears.

No offense, but if Forte is out... we saw what KC did at CHI... I was liking Denver's chances in Denver before Forte got hurt.

Things are oddly lining up ... with the injuries to key players on their schedule recently. They have to win next week vs CHI to really make the NE game high profile.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-05-2011 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8171369)
No offense, but if Forte is out... we saw what KC did at CHI... I was liking Denver's chances in Denver before Forte got hurt.

Things are oddly lining up ... with the injuries to key players on their schedule recently. They have to win next week vs CHI to really make the NE game high profile.

It will be interesting to see the Broncos versus the Pats.

The Broncos should take care of business versus the Bears. The great thing about Tebow is that he doesn't make mistakes. For all his shortcomings, he has only one INT, I think this season.

whoman69 12-05-2011 10:43 AM

I would laugh so hard if the other teams let the Chiefs win the division. If we beat Denver and Oakland we would have the first tiebreaker.

Nightfyre 12-05-2011 10:46 AM

I wouldn't. Unless Orton somehow miraculously recovers and turns into Kurt Warner pt II. That would be sorta cool. But we would still have to draft RG3.

Mile High Mania 12-05-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8171741)
I would laugh so hard if the other teams let the Chiefs win the division. If we beat Denver and Oakland we would have the first tiebreaker.

overall / division / conference

Broncos 7-5 / 3-2 / 6-3 (CHI / Pats / @ Bills / KC)
Raiders 7-5 / 2-2 / 5-5 (@ Packers / DET / @KC / SD)
Chiefs 5-7 / 2-2 / 3-6 (@Jets / Packers / Raiders / @ Broncos)
Chargers 4-7* / 2-3 / 3-5* (@ Jax / Bills / Ravens / @ Lions / @ Raiders)

At this point, Denver really controls their own fate and the road to the AFC West title actually goes through Denver with 3 of their 4 remaining games in Denver.

Denver has the best divisional record and conference record. I don't know how all the 'common opponents' breaks down at this point, but I bolded what I believe to be are the toughest games left for each team.

Denver will very likely be in a position that it hasn't been in for the last several years, favorites in 3 of the last 4 games and playing as the team to beat in December. It's nice for a change... but barring some monumental collapses, I just don't see KC or SD playing anything more than spoiler.

Oakland really took a major step back with the beating yesterday against the Dolphins.

Worst case, I see ...
Denver going 2-2 (likely 3-1 though)
Oakland going 2-2
Chiefs going 1-3 (maybe 2-2, doubt it though)
Chargers going 2-3

Mile High Mania 12-06-2011 07:32 AM

So, with 4 games to go.. only 2 games separate worst from first. Which team will crawl out of this lousy division, win the title and advance to the playoffs?

overall / division / conference

Broncos 7-5 / 3-2 / 6-3 (CHI / Pats / @ Bills / KC)
Raiders 7-5 / 2-2 / 5-5 (@ Packers / DET / @KC / SD)
Chiefs 5-7 / 2-2 / 3-6 (@Jets / Packers / Raiders / @ Broncos)
Chargers 5-7 / 2-3 / 4-5 ( / Bills / Ravens / @ Lions / @ Raiders)

Broncos split with OAK and SD, won first game @ KC.
Raiders split with Den, lost to KC, won @ SD
KC split with SD, lost to Den, won @ OAK
Chargers split with Den, split with KC and lost to OAK

San Diego has the worst road to the division title, looking at whom they've lost to within the division and their remaining games.

Raiders have a daunting stretch of games ahead of them with @ Packers, the Lions and then @ KC.

Chiefs... two tough games coming up @ Jets and then the Packers, followed by 2 Div games.

Denver could certainly stumble... they've been living on a prayer at times recently and at some point, they're bound to come up short. They have the most favorable position at this point... but, I'm starting to think that they can stumble here, go 2-2 and still win the division. Granted, likely means a first round exit, but you never know.

OctoberFart 01-09-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8152879)
NO AFCW team can talk smaq about the post season. If you haven't won a play off game and a SB in 5 yrs, you are irrelevant.

Said by a team that hasn't been relevant in 20 years and seen every other team in the AFCW even old AFCW cellar dweller Seattle in the big game. Chiefs are an embarrassment to the league. Now why don't you all neg rep me with go die in a fire. Come on guys you need some new stuff.

R8RFAN 01-15-2012 02:10 PM

It's been 15,343 days since the Chiefs won or were in their last Superbowl


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