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memyselfI 01-12-2012 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 8287824)
I don't know how anyone could sleep with all of the dicks slapping them about the face and torso. You keep your lavender body wash if it works for you. I sleep just fine, thank you.
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Aromatherapy dates back thousands of years. Before big pharma and media influence that lead some insecure men to feel that holistic practices are not masculine.

memyselfI 01-12-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8289831)
I've tried mediation before and it didn't do much TBH.

Mediation? Wouldn't help you sleep. It probably would cause you to lose sleep.

Titty Meat 01-12-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8289836)
Mediation? Wouldn't help you sleep. It probably would cause you to lose sleep.

No i'm talking about in general. It didn't do much at all.

Al Bundy 01-12-2012 07:23 PM

Pretty weak if you in anyway called this dudes little girl what he is claiming you called her Billay.

Titty Meat 01-12-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UCF Knight (Post 8289870)
Pretty weak if you in anyway called this dudes little girl what he is claiming you called her Billay.

Did you miss the half dozen posts where I explained I never said anything about her?

Gonzo 01-12-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8289835)
Aromatherapy dates back thousands of years. Before big pharma and media influence that lead some insecure men to feel that holistic practices are not masculine.

Homosexuality dates back thousands of years as well...
Coincidence? Maybe.
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Pants 01-12-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8289835)
Aromatherapy dates back thousands of years. Before big pharma and media influence that lead some insecure men to feel that holistic practices are not masculine.

People who lived to 40 were considered old thousands of years ago. That was before the big pharma though.

listopencil 01-12-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8289835)
Aromatherapy dates back thousands of years. Before big pharma and media influence that lead some insecure men to feel that holistic practices are not masculine.

Holistic practices aren't gender related. And I'm pretty sure it's that whole "having sex with another guy" thing that makes you gay, not what you wear/ingest/smell/listen to. Which has nothing to do with using "gay" as a derogatory label. There are very few black and white issues in this world. Most of it is just another shade of grey. I've already tried meditation (with and without being lead) and nothing but a pill was going to work in this situation.

petegz28 01-12-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8289831)
I've tried mediation before and it didn't do much TBH.

What kind of meditation? Seriously. I am not one who does it often but when I am stressed or can't sleep, etc., I go sit on my chair, put on some very calming music, close my eyes and focus on my breathing and nothing else. Very controled breaths...inhale while counting to 4, hold while counting to 4, exhale while counting to 4. Just focus on the sound of your breath. this is where is gets a bit off the manly path but imagine all your negative energy leaving your body through the crown of your head. Don't think about the negativity in specifics, just picture a light. such as a red light or or whatever color you associate with stress and negativity streaming out of your head. It might take a few times to get the hang of it but the bottom line is it calms you and empties your mind.

If that doesn't work try some herbal tea about 30 minutes before bedtime and reading. Don't read anything too cerebral. Do NOT watch TV or fall asleep with the TV on or it will **** with your dreams and cause you to not have a good night's rest.

Another thing I do at times is go back to your favorite times as a child or teen. Reminisce on your childhood dreams and fantasies. I played guitar growing up and of course always had the dream of being a rock star. I think back to the after-school jam sessions my friends and I would do and such. It puts me in a happy state of mind and relaxes me.

You have to figure out what works for you but please don't try the drug route unless you absolutely have too. Holistic and meditative remedies take a little time to get down pat but they work and are a lot more healthy for you both mentaly and physically.

I am not sure if you said stress was your issue or not but stress is usually why someone can't sleep. Your mind is going a million miles and hour and usualy about negative things. Just do whatever it is you have to do to put yourself in a positive state of mind and a relaxed physical state before you hit the pillow.

Gonzo 01-12-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8290013)
Holistic practices aren't gender related. And I'm pretty sure it's that whole "having sex with another guy" thing that makes you gay, not what you wear/ingest/smell/listen to. Which has nothing to do with using "gay" as a derogatory label. There are very few black and white issues in this world. Most of it is just another shade of grey. I've already tried meditation (with and without being lead) and nothing but a pill was going to work in this situation.

Ambien Walrus agrees with this post. As do I.
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petegz28 01-12-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8289836)
Mediation? Wouldn't help you sleep. It probably would cause you to lose sleep.

That's not true. Meditation is very good for clearing your mind, relaxing your body and eliminating stress.

petegz28 01-12-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8290013)
Holistic practices aren't gender related. And I'm pretty sure it's that whole "having sex with another guy" thing that makes you gay, not what you wear/ingest/smell/listen to. Which has nothing to do with using "gay" as a derogatory label. There are very few black and white issues in this world. Most of it is just another shade of grey. I've already tried meditation (with and without being lead) and nothing but a pill was going to work in this situation.

I am not familiar with your situation, of course, but to me the drug route is usually considered to be the "only thing that worked" by people who are impatient or just have it in their mind that nothing else is going to work. It's not a flaw, per sey. We are an instant gratification species now and we have been raised with the expectation of quick results and sour quickly on anything that doesn't produce such. We get a headache, we take an advil and in 15 minutes we are good to go. the probalem with the whole pharma route is the nasty side effects. Natural remedies have worked for thousands of years but yes, they take longer but are better for you.

Again though, we are impatient as a people these days. Want to lose weight? You can eat healthy and exercise or you can say **** that, take a pill and shove down the double-cheese and still drop weight. It gets buried in our subconscience at an early age and it's hard to break away from that habitual line of thinking.

Then again, sometimes the Pharma route is the only way to go but hopefully a laundry list of alternatives have been tried before you get to that point.

memyselfI 01-12-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8290026)
That's not true. Meditation is very good for clearing your mind, relaxing your body and eliminating stress.

He wrote mediation. Not meditation. ;)

petegz28 01-12-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8290075)
He wrote mediation. Not meditation. ;)

Oh..LMAO....gotcha

Titty Meat 01-12-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8290023)
What kind of meditation? Seriously. I am not one who does it often but when I am stressed or can't sleep, etc., I go sit on my chair, put on some very calming music, close my eyes and focus on my breathing and nothing else. Very controled breaths...inhale while counting to 4, hold while counting to 4, exhale while counting to 4. Just focus on the sound of your breath. this is where is gets a bit off the manly path but imagine all your negative energy leaving your body through the crown of your head. Don't think about the negativity in specifics, just picture a light. such as a red light or or whatever color you associate with stress and negativity streaming out of your head. It might take a few times to get the hang of it but the bottom line is it calms you and empties your mind.

If that doesn't work try some herbal tea about 30 minutes before bedtime and reading. Don't read anything too cerebral. Do NOT watch TV or fall asleep with the TV on or it will **** with your dreams and cause you to not have a good night's rest.

Another thing I do at times is go back to your favorite times as a child or teen. Reminisce on your childhood dreams and fantasies. I played guitar growing up and of course always had the dream of being a rock star. I think back to the after-school jam sessions my friends and I would do and such. It puts me in a happy state of mind and relaxes me.

You have to figure out what works for you but please don't try the drug route unless you absolutely have too. Holistic and meditative remedies take a little time to get down pat but they work and are a lot more healthy for you both mentaly and physically.

I am not sure if you said stress was your issue or not but stress is usually why someone can't sleep. Your mind is going a million miles and hour and usualy about negative things. Just do whatever it is you have to do to put yourself in a positive state of mind and a relaxed physical state before you hit the pillow.

This wasn't mediation for sleep I did it was some sort of Buddhist mediation a few years ago.

For sleep I took a warm shower before bed and tossed one out. It was actually rather relaxing.


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