Riker's beard > Chuck Norris' beard?

The Changeling. In that episode, they encounter a probe who thinks Kirk is the creator because the person who created it was named Roykirk.

Which season and ep number. I'll look it up on netflix this weekend.

I definitely remember her. She was Miss India, and was in the unforgettable movie classic Megaforce. Died from a heart attack.

I guess that makes me a die hard. *shrug*

Sorry about that

smartass. You just don't want to admit you knew the season and ep number without having to look it up.:p

I've actually only seen a handful of the original Star Trek. This may seem blasphemous, but after "discovering" TNG very late in the game (just 2 years ago) and then making my way through DS9 and Voyager (still haven't seen much of Enterprise, either) I just can't handle the original series.

I like the movies just fine. I admire the series for the vision and hope it can give humanity, and I recognize that William Shatner is the greatest damn actor who ever lived. But I just can't do the original series. I've been spoiled by the Borg, Dominion War, and some seriously, seriously fine writing. Some of the best television writing I've ever seen, actually.

I don't know what it is about Kirk's trek. I can handle old stuff just fine. I don't care about 60s production quality. Hell, I love watching those old Lost in Space episodes and Buck Rogers. I... just can't appreciate the episodes the same way I can appreciate stuff from TNG or DS9 (notice how I left Voyager off that list).

Are you my long lost brother?

I am in the process of making my way through TOS right now and in 3 months have watched 6 episodes. I plowed through TNG and DS9 together in 3 months.

Voyager sucks. It got better in the middle episodes but it was just a lesser level of suck. Enterprise was better than Voyager but that isn't saying a whole lot.

I'm right there with ya really. As a kid in the 70's I watched TOS whenever channel 41 out of KC would bleed through on our limited antenna. They didn't bring cable out to the house I grew up in until the 90's.

Because of TOS, I watched TNG from the start and was completely hooked. Then I watched DS9 but kind of lost interest after season 3 which seems to be when it really took off. I do like Voyager and even liked the first season of Enterprise.

With all that said, every time I try to go back to TOS the production of it drives me up the damn wall. As a kid with limited access to the show I didn't care about that. Now it is hard to sit through. But, I always go back to watch any ep that somebody references or recommends.

I voted for George Takei

Dunno. Is your dick also enormous? I have no idea which gene determines size, and if that's a random thing or not.

My wife loves movies, and this local place we go to has goddamn near everything at a price competitive to Netflix. So we're on a plan together. That's how I watched DS9 and Voyager was through them. Picked up a few of the original series. I caught myself constantly checking the timer on the DVD console. The minutes just seemed to achingly crawl by. I never did that when I watched DS9 or Voyager.

One of these days I'll force myself to watch all of the original Trek. I just don't anticipate that getting accomplished any time soon.

I'm probably giving Voyager too hard of a time. There were some serious clunker episodes-- far more clunker episodes in Voyager than there were in TNG or DS9. The one where Tom Paris cracks Warp 10, turns into a salamander, finds Janeway, she turns into a salamander, and they run off together to have salamander babies. Horrific. Far worse than Avery Brooks singing "Allamaraine, count to four..."

They put out some interesting aliens, though. As hypocritical as Janeway is about Star Fleet duty, she's pretty badass. They worked with some great sci-fi concepts that TNG just kind of ran out of time to explore. For example, that episode where a copy of the Doctor is preserved in a museum a few centuries in the future on a planet with a violent past. The historical accuracy of the role Voyager played in one of its big events is misunderstood and made to look like Voyager was the aggressor. Science fiction is the perfect vessel to critique something like historical conjecture when not quite all the evidence is there. It's funny how we imagine the past and think we know it, but we really have no ****ing clue at all.

The biggest turn-off about Voyager is just the number of hollow, crap characters that show has. Chakotay was always a giant piece of shit. Neelix was hella annoying. And Tom Paris had so much forced shit jammed into his character, he was possibly the worst-written main character in the entire Star Trek franchise. You can just tell that Rick Berman's idea to put a career ****up and societal misfit like Tom Paris on a starship backfired in his face. He couldn't keep it going. Tom Paris just wasn't Star Trek, so Berman had to turn him into somebody responsible, but then that made him useless. So uh... he likes 20th century Earth stuff! Yeah! And old black and white science fiction holodeck programs! It can be like a meta-critique of the genre it purports to be!

Hell, man. I had forgotten all about that salamander episode. Why did you have to go and remind me of it again. LMAO

no love for Zoe Saldana or Winona Ryder?