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Apple overhauling its 30 pin connector (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=262365)

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8905008)

pet peeve. I bitch about Sony for the same crap just as much. I'm a huge standards guy.

But yes, you are being realistic about why Apple is doing. Others have made bogus claims that it was a necessary advancement that was superior to any standard out there.

Perhaps is it. I just can't imagine giving a **** one way or the other.

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8904172)

bump for discussion of the now official new connector.

Don't care, do not buy apple trash.

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8905016)

Perhaps is it. I just can't imagine giving a **** one way or the other.

Like I said. just a pet peeve regarding using standards in electronics/computing. I don't expect anyone else to give 1 shit, much less 2

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As for why the company is changing the dock connector that has been on nearly all iPhones and iPods since 2003, Schiller said it simply wasn’t possible to build products as thin as the new iPhones and iPods without changing the cord. Hence, the new “Lightning” connector.

Micro USB might not have achieved this goal. Looking at that Lighting (terrible name) plug the connections are on the outside instead of inside on the micro USB.

Still really annoying after the 30 pin has become essentially ubiquitous.

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Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 8905044)

The form factor is only a matter of choice. MicroUSB would do the job just fine if Apple was willing to go with the STANDARD form factor. their only excuse is that they REALLY feel that having a reversible plug is THAT important.

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8905008)

It's the American way! Rugged individualism and lack of conformity to standards. Freaking socialists wanting to drag everyone down to the same level and make us all the same. Apple is keeping the American Dream and capitalism alive and well. Like they say, "It's as American as Apple pie."

:evil:

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8904172)

bump for discussion of the now official new connector.

Bob Dole read an article that implied the devices come with a Thunderbolt adapter. (Gizmodo maybe?)

I do like the fact that it's reversible.

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8905032)

Like I said. just a pet peeve regarding using standards in electronics/computing. I don't expect anyone else to give 1 shit, much less 2

I give a shit.

Now I have to get back to studying for my CCDP. :D

Question(s) for you guys.

I am up for an upgrade on my iphone. I am itunes heavy and have all my music stored there. I am a hard collector and still buy CD's and vinyl and import them into my itunes, I don't buy/download digital albums or 1 song here or there, I buy whole hard copies and import them to itunes to put on my phone.

This connector thing has me a bit annoyed plus my wife has an android that has me somewhat impressed. My question(s) is, can an android phone work with itunes, or is there a more ideal player/storage system for android? Also any suggestions on a more optimal player/storage/phone relationship are appreciated.

TIA.

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 8906371)

Yes, Android phones can work with iTunes. It's not very difficult, and there's a bunch of programs that will help with it. Here's instructions that might help get you started: http://ipod.about.com/od/advanceditu...t-Does-Not.htm

But a better solution would probably be dumping iTunes altogether if you're going with Android. There's lots of apps that will transfer your iTunes music library to something else. I'd really recommend Google Music. You can upload some 25,000 songs. Just download the Google Music manager for either Windows or OS X, and tell it to gobble up your iTunes library. It takes forever, but it will copy all music in your iTunes library to the Google Music cloud. Which can then be played from any device with an internet connection, iOS, Android, OS X, Windows, whatever. It works really really well. It's a pain uploading all your music, because it can take several days depending on how much music you have. But once it's in Google, it works great. I think it's a better solution than Apple's cloud music service.

So Apple made this connector a lot more simplified than I thought they would. And they sacrificed quite a bit just for the sake of size.

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Lightning, as the new connector is called, is described as "all-digital", which seems more obfuscatory than necessary. The basic conceit of this new connector is that at any point in time, not all the pins of the 30-pin connector were active. So, if a particular use case involved the charging pins and some audio pins, or the charging pins and USB pins, why not design a system that provides just enough pins for any given use case. The iPhone senses what pins are being requested and some on-device signaling sends the necessary bits over the available pins.

As an added design feature, the connector is reversible, so you'll never fumble with figuring out what way to put it in, as is so common with USB connectors.

There's much that we still need to dig into with this new connector, but we do know what it is almost surely not. This isn't a faster interface.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6282/a...s-it-lightning

So instead of piping everything separately on its own pin like they could with the 30 pin connector, they now have to use processing power to monitor each pin for what type of activity is being sent. Which almost completely negates the advantage that the 30 pin connector had. And in doing so, they lost a bunch of functionality that was possible with the 30 pin connector. They're using additional system resources to monitor pins because of shared usage, which makes accessory manufacturers create adapters that are more complicated because they also have to monitor pins for the correct data.

You can find this on Apple's site regarding the new Lightning adapter: “Video and iPod Out not supported.” WTF? Dicks...

That's because it no longer has separate piping or sufficient pins to allow for it. That's pretty disappointing. This new adapter is not really faster at all. And naming it Lightning is just short of hilariously sad.

If Kc Fish has turned we've lost all hope...

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8906575)

If Kc Fish has turned we've lost all hope...

If I have lost Kc Fish, I have lost middle America.

So...

Pros:
Reversible. I like that, especially when i'm trying to plug my phone in while drunk.

Cons:
Have to use a stupid adapter to get my old chargers to work. I'm 75% sure my cheap Monoprice adapters will work with the adapter but you never know.

Overall, a pretty big FAIL.