Don't forget Brodie Croyle (Herm's annointed QBOTF), Jeff Webb, Tre Stallings, Marcus Maxey, Tank/Turk, Kolby Smith, Justin Medlock, Herb Taylor, Barry Richardson, Brad Cottam, and Glenn Dorsey.

Interesting how the defenders of Herm's draft record leave out those draft picks.

I liked Cottom, he was just very injury prone. But ok.

he also kept guys like Waters and Gonzalez happy to be a part of this team and playing at an elite level and let's face it, guys like Pollard and Page weren't trash.

Jason Babin finished 2008 strong and went on to be a sack monster.

Who knows what Glenn Dorsey would be...

Those things happen when you are going through a ground up rebuild and as I said he wasn't a good gameday coach...but the guy had a good wye for talent and wasn't afraid of letting that talent on the field.

Your and idiot.

and how do Scott's drafts compare to Herm's again? thought so.

Whatever herm did to get us some talent, it cannot be ignored that he turned the chiefs from an incredibly exciting team to one of the most boring identity-less pieces of shit in the nfl.

I don't care if Dick Vermeil never won us a superbowl, just like I don't care that Montana never won us a superbowl. All I know is that those were fantastic times to be a chiefs fan.

How can anyone not have loved that chiefs team if they ever watched the games? Almost every weekend was a reason to be excited and my goodness, that offense was amazing. Every play we ran, run or pass, seemed to be for a 15 or 20 yard chunk. And they did it even though every player seemed to have been a castoff deemed not good enough for some other team. It was like a real life version of the Bad News Bears... complete with the unfortunate ending. And also, vermeil probably gave the players wine to drink instead of beer.

I don't know about GM, but Vermeil was a magnificent bastard as a head coach.

:spock:

While those players are shit, and I'm no fan of Herm, the 06-08 drafts gave us the best players on this team.

You cannot hit on every pick. It just doesn't happen.

That's good, because in 06 and 07 Herm missed on pretty much every pick except the first round.

The 08 draft I don't really credit him much. It was a deep draft and he had a huge wad of picks after we traded one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. It was a good year to have a ton of picks. A lot of good players in that 08 draft.

The biggest flaw in Herm's plan was to release anyone with more than 4 years experience and start a bunch of UFA's that were really no more than practice squad players... if that. Also, all of the dipshits who thought Huard was better than Green.

Again, comparing Herm's drafts to Fat Scott's drafts, to make Herm look good doesn't mean anything.

That is like saying your girlfriend is hot because she is better looking than Janet Reno.

Brodie Croyle was drafted and annointed by Herm as the Chiefs QBOTF.

Enough said.

By you - definitely...

He was a 3rd round pick and had a very live arm.

What was wrong with this?

It didn't work out, but he tried.

It wasn't Herm's fault Croyle was made of glass.

How you can say with a straight face that Herm has a "good eye for talent" when he picked Brodie Croyle to be the Chiefs QBOTF.

The most important position in the NFL... Herm looked at Croyle and thought he was a legit NFL QB.

Croyle was injury prone in college. It didn't take a genius to figure out he wouldn't be able to physically survive in the NFL.

Yet Herm and his alleged "great eye for talent" thought otherwise.

Whenever a Herm apologist babbles on about his talent evaluation skills... Brodie Croyle kills the argument.