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Rausch 12-19-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9223909)
Go look at the history of the franchise when the team has 4 or less wins and the changes that get made.

Soccer Dad wasn't owner then...

dirk digler 12-19-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9223906)
I'm talking 8 total wins in 3 years - not 8 or less wins in consecutive years.

ahhh..came close - 11 wins between 76-78

DaKCMan AP 12-19-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9223912)
Soccer Dad wasn't owner then...

The last time this team went 2-14, Soccer Dad was owner and made wholesale changes.

jallmon 12-19-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9223811)

He's created such a toxic working environment that it effects who will come in and work with him. He hasn't acquired a competent QB in his time here.


Reminds me of a post awhile back about a member of the Chiefs org arranging for the NYGs to get a hotel in KC during a bad storm. Pioli later called the Giant's GM and claimed credit for that. Assuming that was true, and I see no reason to believe that it is not, that is all I need to know about Pioli.

That and the fact that Peyton Manning wouldn't even acknowledge the Chiefs' contract offer when he was discussing possible new teams.

We're on the road back now. Just need to relax and watch things unfold.

Rausch 12-19-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9223917)
The last time this team went 2-14, Soccer Dad was owner and made wholesale changes.

So 2 wins is the cutoff?

4 Wins is ok. 6 isn't perfect but it'll do if we sell out. But TWO WINS!?!

Now heads need to roll...

dirk digler 12-19-2012 11:58 AM

Just got the last part of this put Kevin Harlan was on with Petro and from what I gathered there is a story making the rounds that Carl\Denny Thum were doing some unethical\corrupt things inside the organization and one of the main reasons Clark hired Pioli was to get it all cleaned up.

Petro didn't know if this story was put out by Pioli to save his job or true but it is out there.

dirk digler 12-19-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9223917)
The last time this team went 2-14, Soccer Dad was owner and made wholesale changes.

You seem to forget that Jack Steadman was the GM for 15 years and had 4 winning seasons. So yeah Lamar didn't do shit

Mr. Laz 12-19-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9223964)
Just got the last part of this put Kevin Harlan was on with Petro and from what I gathered there is a story making the rounds that Carl\Denny Thum were doing some unethical\corrupt things inside the organization and one of the main reasons Clark hired Pioli was to get it all cleaned up.

Petro didn't know if this story was put out by Pioli to save his job or true but it is out there.

I believe that rumor was out before Pioli got here

O.city 12-19-2012 12:02 PM

What is unethical/corrupt in that situation?

GloryDayz 12-19-2012 12:05 PM

I'm still trying to decide if I'll fire him or not.. I'm sorta on the fence.. I like how the office is like so clean 'n shit all the time. I let go of the cleaning staff to increase profits, so we needed Scott's "Spic and Span" employee program to pick up where they left off. I like clean women and offices! And he has less hair than me, that's goo too, it helps me when we're on road trips - I get like no competition for the local chicks in the jet...

Signed,

Chunt

dirk digler 12-19-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9223980)
What is unethical/corrupt in that situation?

don't know only caught the last part of it..probably something to do with money

DaKCMan AP 12-19-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9223961)
So 2 wins is the cutoff?

4 Wins is ok. 6 isn't perfect but it'll do if we sell out. But TWO WINS!?!

Now heads need to roll...

No. The sample size isn't large enough with Clark. Herm went 4-12 after a 9-7 season. He blew things up, was given another year, and after going 2-14 we got a new GM & HC.

Rausch 12-19-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9223987)
I'm still trying to decide if I'll fire him or not.. I'm sorta on the fence..

If I thought for a second the decision was up to you I'd be carting your corpse to some very remote areas of Vegas as we speak...

DaKCMan AP 12-19-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9223968)
You seem to forget that Jack Steadman was the GM for 15 years and had 4 winning seasons. So yeah Lamar didn't do shit

I wasn't cognizant of football until after Peterson became GM (I was 4 when that happened).

However, looking at the history of the franchise, any time the team had 4 or less wins (and it wasn't the first year under a new HC) there was a change made - whether it was GM, HC, or both.

Rausch 12-19-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9223998)
No. The sample size isn't large enough with Clark.

No $3it?

That was kind of my point...


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