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dirk digler 12-19-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9224532)
Vermeil had plenty of desire; his problem was that he's ****ing stupid and too loyal to really stupid people.

I am not so sure of his desire plus they had to convince him every year to come back. No thanks. I want someone who is going to be here 10 years minimum.

htismaqe 12-19-2012 02:41 PM

What's really gonna suck is when we end up with Josh McDaniels and Alex Smith.

Sorter 12-19-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9224547)
What's really gonna suck is when we end up with Josh McDaniels and Alex Smith.

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O.city 12-19-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9224547)
What's really gonna suck is when we end up with Josh McDaniels and Alex Smith.

No, it really won't.


Cause then I won't give a shit. I'll be enjoying college football and playing golf on Sundays in the fall.

HemiEd 12-19-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9224473)
He made it to the SB with a non franchise QB and was consistently in teh playoffs.

Well it is the Steelers organization.

The Chiefs were consistently in the playoffs with Marty, you want that again or do you want to win a SB?

BossChief 12-19-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9224544)
I am not so sure of his desire plus they had to convince him every year to come back. No thanks. I want someone who is going to be here 10 years minimum.

Why?

Hiring a guy like Bill would be a perfect situation for getting premium coordinators because they know they can not only have success under him, but that he wont be here forever so the opportunities for advancement are there, too.

Plus, it's not like the guy is all that old.

htismaqe 12-19-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9224572)
Well it is the Steelers organization.

The Chiefs were consistently in the playoffs with Marty, you want that again or do you want to win a SB?

Kind of how I feel.

htismaqe 12-19-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9224564)
No, it really won't.


Cause then I won't give a shit. I'll be enjoying college football and playing golf on Sundays in the fall.

Good point.

O.city 12-19-2012 02:51 PM

I view it all about statistics. To win the SB, you have to give yourself as many opportunities as possible to get there. Of course there is that anomaly, like the Cards who have a somewhat flash in the pan and get there.

But, there are so many factors that go into winning SB's. Having a franchise QB and a good coach are a start, but thats not enough. Otherwise, we'd see a Pats dynasty like no other.

Statistics are also a reason why I'd be against Cowher, seeing as the "rule" comes into effect here.

HemiEd 12-19-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9224495)
Come on, man.

First six years in Pitts:
64 wins
5 Divisional Championships
5 playoff victories
3 AFC Championship appearances
1 SB appearance (lost to Dallas)

All with jack and shit at QB. I'll take that resume. Please.

What years were those again? Do you really think the game is the same?

Those were the years right after he left the Chiefs as a hot DC.

To be totally honest, I would take Haley back first, twice even.

O.city 12-19-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9224572)
Well it is the Steelers organization.

The Chiefs were consistently in the playoffs with Marty, you want that again or do you want to win a SB?

Difference is, Cowher actually won in the playoffs.


If you guys have a sure system or guy that will win us a SB, I'm all ears.

But I do know that Cowher consistently put a solid team on the field and won in the playoffs.

O.city 12-19-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9224581)
What years were those again? Do you really think the game is the same?

Those were the years right after he left the Chiefs as a hot DC.

To be totally honest, I would take Haley back first, twice even.

Even more case for Cowher.


He won that way, figured out it didn't work to win the SB, got a franchise QB and won the other way.

HemiEd 12-19-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9224574)
Kind of how I feel.

It took me 8 years on here, but I am sick of the same old crap, sucking the left over hind tit.

Cowher was spent when he left the Steelers, maybe even burned out. Does he have the fire again? I would rather see them hire someone that we know has the fire and desire to get it done.

dirk digler 12-19-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9224573)
Why?

Hiring a guy like Bill would be a perfect situation for getting premium coordinators because they know they can not only have success under him, but that he wont be here forever so the opportunities for advancement are there, too.

Plus, it's not like the guy is all that old.

I will say this after reading what Cowher has said about returning if he does I have no doubt he will put in maximum effort. My concern is still though is are you going to have to worry about him returning the next year. This organization needs stability we can't be switching out coaches every 3-4 years.

So ideally I would like to see a new GM\HC and QB be together for the next 10 years and if Cowher could commit to at least most of that then I would support it.

O.city 12-19-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9224591)
It took me 8 years on here, but I am sick of the same old crap, sucking the left over hind tit.

Cowher was spent when he left the Steelers, maybe even burned out. Does he have the fire again? I would rather see them hire someone that we know has the fire and desire to get it done.

Josh McDaniels is probably pretty pumped and has the fire. :D


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