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htismaqe 01-13-2013 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9314859)
Except that you are relying on uninformed people like GoChiefs to decide when a sack is given up by a particular player. that is impossible to determine if you don't know the responsibilities on each and every play. Sounds great in theory, impossible to accurately measure.
Pro Football Focus really isn't "uninformed". Just sayin.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 04:15 PM
Jake Long....

22nd in pass blocking efficiency in 2012.

25th in pass blocking efficiency in 2011.

HE IS A GREAT PLAYER.

GREAT.

Easy 6 01-13-2013 04:16 PM
A guy with head coaching experience to coach the line?

Get it done, nothing not to like about that.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9314859)
Except that you are relying on uninformed people like GoChiefs to decide when a sack is given up by a particular player. that is impossible to determine if you don't know the responsibilities on each and every play. Sounds great in theory, impossible to accurately measure.
You're ****ing serious with this shit. It's not hard to tell when a guy gets beat by a player he's supposed to be blocking.

Incredible. ROFL

mcaj22 01-13-2013 04:17 PM
it's kind of funny in this thread alone

you call him a GREAT player and defend him, but mention "HMMM I WONDER IF THE CHIEFS COULD GET HIM FOR A 3RD ROUNDER ON THE CHEAP" like this is a Madden video game.

Newsflash, if he was a great player, he's not being traded for a 3rd rounder.

Easy 6 01-13-2013 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9314842)
HAHAHAHAHAHA. NO ONE except complete morons and Chiefs homers think this. This statement alone proves that you have no clue.
THIS... statement is garbage.

SAUTO 01-13-2013 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9314896)
it's kind of funny in this thread alone

you call him a GREAT player and defend him, but mention "HMMM I WONDER IF THE CHIEFS COULD GET HIM FOR A 3RD ROUNDER ON THE CHEAP" like this is a Madden video game.

Newsflash, if he was a great player, he's not being traded for a 3rd rounder.
What did we give up for roaf?


And I'm not comparing the two, roaf was definitely great and also had health issues
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milkman 01-13-2013 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9314884)
Jake Long....

22nd in pass blocking efficiency in 2012.

25th in pass blocking efficiency in 2011.

HE IS A GREAT PLAYER.

GREAT.
I know you've posted before, but how does Albert compare, and how do they rate as run blockers?

Just a guess, but Albert has to be top 10 in pass protection and around 15 in run blocking, while Long is probaly top 12 in run blocking.

O.city 01-13-2013 04:20 PM
If I'm giving up a 3rd round pick, it's for a CB or a DE that can rusht he passer. Not a LT.

milkman 01-13-2013 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9314901)
What did we give up for roaf?


And I'm not comparing the two, roaf was definitely great and also had health issues
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2nd, and his knee issues were considered to be career threatening.

SAUTO 01-13-2013 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9314911)
2nd, and his knee issues were considered to be career threatening.
i read it as a fourth that moved to a two by playing clauses
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Brock 01-13-2013 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9314911)
2nd, and his knee issues were considered to be career threatening.
A coonditioal 4th.

AustinChief 01-13-2013 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9314820)
so you have a hard on for Jake Long

but Brandon Albert isnt top 5?

then please, name me 5 LTs better

Joe Thomas
Jason Peters

who else. Dont say the idiot from Denver either
Joe Thomas
Jason Peters
Jake Long
Duane Brown
Andrew Whitworth

I can keep going if you need more.

milkman 01-13-2013 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9314918)
i read it as a fourth that moved to a two by playing clauses
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Don't remember if it was conditional, just remember that it was a 2nd round pick that we eventually gave up.

This for a HoF, and probably top 3 LT ever.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9314904)
I know you've posted before, but how does Albert compare, and how do they rate as run blockers.

Just a guess, but Albert has to be top 10 in pass protection and around 15 in run blocking, while Long is probaly top 12 in run blocking.
Jake Long was by far a better run blocker than Albert before his injury. But the last two seasons, even though Albert's run blocking grade hasn't been great, it was still better than Long's.

Albert the last two seasons was 7th and 8th in PBE.

Long was nothing even close to good last year. He didn't even have a positive grade.


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