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keg in kc 01-16-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9323526)
Chiefs should have drafted Flacco over Dorsey or Albert, and i dont even think Flacco is an "all world" talent.

Good grief no. That's some insanely revisionist history colored with hindsight. Albert maybe. But not Dorsey. Dorsey was extremely highly touted. Many thought he'd go at 3 to the Falcons instead of Ryan, and he was in the discussion for the #1 pick. Most people, inside and outside of Kansas City, thought it was a coup that he dropped to us, that we were incredibly lucky. In no way, shape or form was there even a discussion about taking Flacco there. Flacco went exactly where he should have.

(I say this as a guy who really likes Flacco)

Anyway, that's really irrelevant to the discussion. Smith is a much better prospect than Flacco. And there's no Dorsey in this draft.

If we want to talk QB in that draft, in a perfect world we either trade up to Atlanta and take Ryan ourselves, or they take Dorsey, nobody trades up to #4, and Ryan drops to us.

Ace Gunner 01-16-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChefBoyRDEE (Post 9323484)
Andy is a master of trading down and accumulating picks, Geno is not the answer at #1, the team needs LOTS of players

a no brainer in my mind

more realistic that Andy trades for Kevin Kobb and accumulates draft picks to stock the whole roster and then keeps his eye out for another franchise QB

AFTER he drafted McNabb #2 overall, which was a reach in my mind at the time because McNabb was awful had he not run for so many first downs & TD's in college. When he started playing under Reid, we heard how Reid coached McNabb hard to stop with the tuck and run. Reid made McNabb into a pocket passer, but it took 5 years before McNabb finally became a disciplined QB at this level under Reid's WCO system. Then, the accuracy began to show.

I've heard from more than one person Reid is not a guy that spends his time with draft boards and selections. Reid does his own board, discusses players with the staff and lets his GM do his thing. I'm sure he's going to do the same now.

The Chiefs need a guard, CB, WR and with Geno, they are good for 2013. It ain't gonna happen overnight. But to say Reid isn't going to go after a young QB #1 is just wrong. He did. He will again and Geno has more of those skills that Reid needs than McNabb ever had.

Chief Roundup 01-16-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9323983)
Never seems to happen here

Don't know about that. I would think that Cassel had a lot to do with P ioli being let go. Granted it was P ioli's BS but he stuck by Cassel and it cost him his job.

Chief_For_Life58 01-16-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9323373)
I said this the other day if you don't take him 1 who the hell are you gonna take?

There's a good chnace 6 QB's go in the 1st.

Mike Glennon?

htismaqe 01-16-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9323994)
AFTER he drafted McNabb #2 overall

There you go injecting reality into the conversation again.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Chief_For_Life58 01-16-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9324010)
Don't know about that. I would think that Cassel had a lot to do with P ioli being let go. Granted it was P ioli's BS but he stuck by Cassel and it cost him his job.

and all the other backups he drafted aswell

Ace Gunner 01-16-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9324014)
There you go injecting reality into the conversation again.

What the hell is wrong with you?

well damn :D

ptlyon 01-16-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9324010)
Don't know about that. I would think that Cassel had a lot to do with P ioli being let go. Granted it was P ioli's BS but he stuck by Cassel and it cost him his job.

I guess my point was that it happens all the time. Quinn is a perfect example.

Now if you were to say he got let go for bringing in Quinn as "competition", I'd agree with you. :) We all knew how that would turn out.

Chief Roundup 01-16-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9324041)
I guess my point was that it happens all the time. Quinn is a perfect example.

Now if you were to say he got let go for bringing in Quinn as "competition", I'd agree with you. :) We all knew how that would turn out.

That has to be included because he brought Quinn in to protect Cassel. It was not competition. We all knew that. He brought in Cassel through trading of draft picks and then continued to do whatever it took to keep Cassel as the starter.

Rambozo 01-16-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ChefBoyRDEE
Andy is a master of trading down and accumulating picks
Andy is a known for trading up and getting the guy he wants. He did it several drafts in a row. I think you have it backwards.

ToxSocks 01-16-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChefBoyRDEE (Post 9323452)
trade the pick for a mid to late 1st round pick, and a couple 2nd/3rd round picks this year and next and a 1st next year ; something like that makes more sense

no QB worth the 1st pick and the team has LOTS of needs

I swear.....I will celebrate the day Mel Kipper loses his job.

Chef, i want you to show my WHY. Give me factual evidence of WHY there is no one worth taking. I dare you.

I dare ANY of you to prove to me WHY there isn't a QB worth taking. Go Ahead. Im waiting.

ToxSocks 01-16-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9324166)
I swear.....I will celebrate the day Mel Kipper loses his job.

Chef, i want you to show my WHY. Give me factual evidence of WHY there is no one worth taking. I dare you.

I dare ANY of you to prove to me WHY there isn't a QB worth taking. Go Ahead. Im waiting.

Actually, I have a better question. For all of you who say that there isn't one worthy of being taken: What do YOU look for in a QB?

ToxSocks 01-16-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9324166)
I swear.....I will celebrate the day Mel Kipper loses his job.

Chef, i want you to show my WHY. Give me factual evidence of WHY there is no one worth taking. I dare you.

I dare ANY of you to prove to me WHY there isn't a QB worth taking. Go Ahead. Im waiting.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9324172)
Actually, I have a better question. For all of you who say that there isn't one worthy of being taken: What do YOU look for in a QB?

Tick-Tock.....Im Waiting

Chief3188 01-16-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9324196)
Tick-Tock.....Im Waiting

If you are expecting a good answer from one of those morons you will be disappointed. It's like asking an autistic monkey with down syndrome what is wrong with its brain and expecting a detailed response with the use of Microsoft Excel accompanied with riveting theories on how to cure it.

Rausch 01-16-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 9324452)
It's like asking an autistic monkey with down syndrome what is wrong with its brain and expecting a detailed response with the use of Microsoft Excel accompanied with riveting theories on how to cure it.

Put the monkey down...


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