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Hootie 03-27-2013 01:42 PM
(by the way, see how easy that is? everyone can be a choker...)

ptlyon 03-27-2013 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9533327)
(by the way, see how easy that is? everyone can be a choker...)
We all know you are

ptlyon 03-27-2013 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9533308)
Slightly off topic, who's the bigger choke artist? Favre or Peyton?

Both have 1 ring, both lost in another SB. Both recently threw interceptions in their most recent playoff appearances that involved both QBs trying throw across their bodies and ultimately ended up costing their teams.
Favre. He flopped for Strahan, and looked remarkably shitty doing it

BigMeatballDave 03-27-2013 01:46 PM
Per usual, any time there is a discussion involving Peyton, Hootie gets off on a tangent and forgets the point.

Fact: Flacco is more successful and makes fewer boneheaded plays in the post-season than Peyton.

RyFo18 03-27-2013 01:48 PM
This is interesting looking at Flacco's first 5 years vs Manning's first 5 years. Obviously the big difference is that Manning threw 328 more passes (greater than a half a season) in his first 5 years.

Manning: 1749/2817 (62.1%), 20618 yds (7.32ypa, 6.7 AY/A), 138:100 TD:INT, 42-38 record, 16 game winning drives, 85.8 QB Rating
Flacco: 1507/2489 (60.5%), 17633 yds (7.1ypa, 6.9 AY/A), 102:56 TD:INT, 54-26 record, 15 game winning drives, 86.3 QB rating

Manning threw a TD once every 20.4 passes and an INT once every 28 passes.
Flacco threw a TD once every 24.4 passes and an INT once every 44.5 passes.

Manning had 0 playoff wins in his first 5 seasons. Flacco has 9. I don't put as much credence into this as some, wins do tell more about a team in general for the most part.

I think it's safe to say if Flacco continues to grow, he'll be pretty effin good.

BigMeatballDave 03-27-2013 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9533321)
I think Tom Brady is the biggest choke artist in all honesty. He let Peyton Manning win his one and only Super Bowl by giving up a 21-3 lead and then ending the game with an INT when they were down by 4. That was irresponsible and terrible choking. Also, his team the year they were 18-0 was way, way, way too good to lose in the Super Bowl to a team they had already beat by 2 scores in the regular season. The fact he didn't show up in the biggest game of his life? Unacceptable.

Oh and...really this year? Getting crushed at home to a team that the inferior Peyton Manning had already beaten the game before if not for Rahim Moore? Not being able to convert on 3rd downs? Not being able to get the ball in the end zone. Again losing to a team (and by a wide margin) when he had a halftime lead? Disgusting.

Brady is just a huge choker who only won because of cheating and spygate. The fact Goodell had to destroy that damning evidence for the "good of the game" leads me to believe Brady simply can't win the big one.
LMAO 3 SB, and 17 total post-season wins disagree with you.

Sorter 03-27-2013 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9533321)
I think Tom Brady is the biggest choke artist in all honesty. He let Peyton Manning win his one and only Super Bowl by giving up a 21-3 lead and then ending the game with an INT when they were down by 4. That was irresponsible and terrible choking. Also, his team the year they were 18-0 was way, way, way too good to lose in the Super Bowl to a team they had already beat by 2 scores in the regular season. The fact he didn't show up in the biggest game of his life? Unacceptable.

Oh and...really this year? Getting crushed at home to a team that the inferior Peyton Manning had already beaten the game before if not for Rahim Moore? Not being able to convert on 3rd downs? Not being able to get the ball in the end zone. Again losing to a team (and by a wide margin) when he had a halftime lead? Disgusting.

Brady is just a huge choker who only won because of cheating and spygate. The fact Goodell had to destroy that damning evidence for the "good of the game" leads me to believe Brady simply can't win the big one.

LMAO

Sorter 03-27-2013 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9533336)
Favre. He flopped for Strahan, and looked remarkably shitty doing it
I mean, it was really nice of him to do that for Mr. Gap-tooth.

BigMeatballDave 03-27-2013 01:51 PM
I bet Hootie has nightmares about Rahim Moore.

RyFo18 03-27-2013 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9533308)
Slightly off topic, who's the bigger choke artist? Favre or Peyton?
Yes.

Sorter 03-27-2013 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9533358)
Yes.
The OT int for Peyton was eerily similar and fantastic to watch.

Hootie 03-27-2013 01:55 PM
comparing Flacco's first 5 years to Peyton's first 5 years is a joke...

Flacco came into a PASSING league...Peyton came into a RUNNING league.

RyFo18 03-27-2013 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9533373)
The OT int for Peyton was eerily similar and fantastic to watch.
I lost a whole generation of children watching it, if you catch my drift.

Hootie 03-27-2013 01:57 PM
what's Tom's record post spygate? SUPER CURIOUS. Please include Super Bowl record as well.

RyFo18 03-27-2013 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9533376)
comparing Flacco's first 5 years to Peyton's first 5 years is a joke...

Flacco came into a PASSING league...Peyton came into a RUNNING league.
Then an elite passer should have just absolutely shredded defenses in a "RUNNING" league, while you would expect a mediocre passer to struggle against defenses in a "PASSING" league.

I assume it would probably be OK to make this comparison if Peyton blew Flacco away, though.

Excuses. Keep them coming.


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