Thats another wild, probably sci-fi, possibility. If a 4th or 5th dimension exists, whatever the hell that might mean, and if we were capable of existing in those dimensions, and if distance was meaningless in those dimensions.

I think there's a point coming in our future (I don't know when...) where we'll significantly alter and/or find ways around the laws of physics as we currently understand them. I think there's a certain (understandable) arrogance about how we see current understanding as the end of knowledge rather than a still fairly early point on a long road.

I think if there were/are extraterrestrials here (and I think it's a possibility, albeit a remote one), they're probably here for reasons we can't understand doing things we can't understand in ways that we can't understand. Sort of like Clarke's law about sufficiently advanced technology looking like magic.

If aliens are here, we're probably only alive because they like our beer or something. Or because they like having sex with our hookers.

I can't possibly argue this. ROFL

You can go really crazy and think about wacky possibilities like extraterrestrials here as energy forms who've evolved beyond physical forms. Or along your lines, maybe an extraterrestrial bioorganism indistiguishable (to us) from yeast that's actually a hive organism infesting all our beer with some kind of altered CO2 for some nefarious reason like making it all taste like natural light.

We live in a really fascinating time. Pre filter I would say.

The way the numbers crunch, more and more, people are beginning to not simply believe that other life/civilizations could exist, but given the scale of the universe they do and must exist.

Which puts things in a strange place.

It's a place where without evidence people are coming closer and closer to 100% assurance that other civilizations exist while at the same time coming to almost the exact opposite conclusion about a God/creator being.

As folks begin to view time as almost limitless, they begin to take very unlikely events and turn them into pretty likely events.

Unlikely + huge amounts of hard to comprehend time= Likely


I thought the article was great. Lots to process.

Well, there's definitely some mystery to that because there have been many cases where brain damage has unlocked ubergenius abilities in otherwise ordinary folks.

This, of course, is a regular occurrence at every point of progress.

Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth a couple of hundred years BC. Columbus had this knowledge when he sailed, although he thought the numbers were off.

If you want to talk black holes you can look back to John Michell in the late 1700's.

The Fermi Paradox is horseshit, it was dispelled a long time ago... in reality, you're/we're all just a bunch of ants staring up at the sun.

"Well scientist so and so says, in fact multiple bigshot Mr. So and So's say, its an absurdity to think we already have visitors... nope, its all just too complicated for us and anything else in the universe to understand or overcome.

Now back to American Idol...

This thread proves how arrogant most people are, the info from official sources is right there in your ****ing faces if you'd just look and still you hold out.

The **** are you blabbering on about, Scott?

The **** you questioning me about, slim?

I'm telling you and all of these other mfers that the truth is hidden right there in front your ****ing faces... its not crazy old Free over here, listen to astronauts, defense ministers, former heads of Project Bluebook etc.

I give a **** if you or any of the other brilliant minds here agree or not, I'm not the one ignoring blatant evidence in the public domain, slim.

LMAO

Ah, Scott. I'm just ****ing with you, my man.

It's so easy to get a rise out of you!

It's an interesting topic. The reality is that civilizations just don't last very long and on top of that, intergalactic travel is pretty damn impossible. Sure, there are inhabitable planets billions of years older than earth, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are billions of years of technology ahead of us. Dinosaurs ruled the planet for over 100 million years and mankind is only a few thousand. We're only one stray asteroid from being completely set back to the stone age.