The irony of calling someone like Romo too inconsistent when comparing him to Smith.

Pretty much this

E Manning, Big Ben and Flacco are tough to classify


Truly elite or just guys who got hot and streaky at the right times ?

So the guy who puts up meaningless stat lines like number of wins when the defense gives up 24 points is willing to take a guy who is around 1-23 against teams with a winning record?

Then you will say well its not his fault which is an argument you dismiss when discussing Alex.

You dont understand how this works.

The year he threw the ball 727 times he only threw 20 TD passes vs. 17 Ints. He's also completed 60% of his passes exactly one season in his entire career. That is not very God King like.

LMAO Dude. According to this response, Alex Smith is a top 7 QB.

Seriously. Do you think there's one person employed by any NFL team that would agree with that assessment? His own damn contract doesn't even ****ing agree with that.

.. And I'd absolutely sign Peyton ****ing Manning to a 4 year deal worth $68. I'd give him all $68 of it guaranteed even if he decided to hang 'em up after this season. With him, we'd be instant AFC Champion favorites. Same with Brady and Brees as well.

Romo is better than Alex. I'm not even going to waste time arguing it.

I'll give you Cutler, Flacco and Stafford. Cutler and Flacco are iffy and if you'll note I didn't actually pick Stafford for one game. I picked him if I were to sign a long term contract because he's young and could possibly be fixed.

Kaepernick wasn't good passing but he's pretty electric and Wilson was actually extremely efficient passing the ball last season (he was more efficient than Alex). They both also fall under the "young and can be molded" umbrella.

Neither do you. You think trading a guy with a noodle arm for a young pup who is a rare ****ing talent is a bad idea.

Chiefs fans have no clue. They think work ethic and character mean more than top end talent. It doesn't. It hasn't for 20 goddamn years. That should be obvious now but......

This applies here just as much here as on the other thread I posted it to.

The 24 point barrier is not a meaningless number picked at random.

The 2013 season was the highest scoring season in NFL history. Take a look at the average points per game for professional teams (including the AAFC and AFL) since 1940:


http://www.footballperspective.com/w...03/nfl-ppg.png

http://www.footballperspective.com/s...on-since-1940/



Champions have to be able to score more than 25 points by and large, to navigate the playoffs and win it all. There are exceptions to the rule, but by and large, if you are 1 for 35 when opponents score at least 24 points, your playoff run will be brief. By and large. Don't go all 2000 Ravens on me.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ScoringAvg.png

http://juxoneb.xlx.pl/highest-nfl-sc...ingle-team.php

No Clay YOU dont get it.

Luck is a rare talent because he has physical and mental ability.

Stafford hasn't won shit in 4 years because he has physical talent but not mental talent.

Smith is the other side, he has the brains but not as much physical talent.

To try to draw some huge gap between them shows your ignorance.

If Stafford had Smith's brain he would be Arron Rodgers. but he doesn't so he is closer to Jeff George.

The Chiefs as a team scored more than 25 per game last year. I also showed in another thread where we gave up 34 points per game in our losses last year. Go away with your stupid shit.

1-23 Clay, 1-23. That's almost as bad as Croyle's win %.

I can't believe there are some who think Alex Smith is better than Big Ben
absolute insanity
Whoever said people don't watch teams other than KC is right

Tony Romo gets a lot of shit but he is so underrated its silly
His back is jacked up due to him having to carry that team for so long
Yes he has good weapons, but his defense is so bad that there is so much pressure on him and the offense to keep that team in games

The exact opposite of Smith's situation

Romo ****ing sucks, Jones gave that mfer everything a QB a could ever want and he didnt do SHIT with it.

LMAO

The shit people give Romo is a constant source of amusement.

Alex would have that Cowboys team in the cellar every year. Everyone knows bad defense + Alex = top 5 pick.

Maybe that is Reid's plan all along! We will be laden with top 5 picks over the next four years.

If Matt Stafford had gone to the Patriots or Packers and was groomed by Bellicheck or Mike McCarthy, he would be Aaron Rodgers.

Matt Stafford's biggest problem is that he plays for a team owned by William Clay Ford Sr. -- easily the NFL's worst owner. His other big problem is that he has one of the worst head coaches in football, and Ford's loyalty to Schwarts is continuing that problem.

If Hunt is a lousy owner, Ford is abysmal and gives his team NO chance for success.

Stafford has NEVER had the development in Detroit that he needed to excel. Never. Stafford's biggest problem is inadequate QB development. It is amazing what he has done with natural talent alone with that despicable development.

This post really does sum things up perfectly. This is why there is so many differing opinions of specific QB rankings. Once you get beyond the 4 clear QBs at the top.. the next bunch is large and muddled. It is fun to watch the bickering and spin-jobs over these 2nd tier options. :p