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ClevelandBronco 02-08-2016 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12072302)
Once he used the face mask to throw him over his hip it became a blatant and ejectable offense.

I don't think anyone -- not even Talib -- would argue against that. The thing is, though, no ref is going to eject a player from the Super Bowl just because he did something ejectable -- but hardly unprecedented -- between the whistles.

srvy 02-08-2016 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12072120)
Unlike the condom on the homeless man that knocked up your Mom.

ROFL:clap:

Rain Man 02-08-2016 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12072296)
I like the idea of making a team play short handed, but not for an entire drive. Maybe a series or until the offended team scores, whichever comes first.

I was actually thinking just for the next play. I'm not sure what an 11 on 10 would do in football, but I would think even one play would be enough to make teams think twice about cheapshotting someone or touching Tom Brady.

Squalor2 02-08-2016 08:06 PM

amendola did this to us with his pf on fleming in the playoffs. talib did the same thing on brown. it was situational football. its called a 15 yarder, but inside the 10, it really doesnt mean squat for yardage. it helps the pats and broncos. cheaters win again.

wanna fix it? if you get a personal foul that keeps a player off the field, you don't play til he comes back. that game. that season.

GloryDayz 02-08-2016 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12071587)
As much as I hate how often the Broncos take PF penalties trying to hurt guys, it certainly has been effective this year. Sometimes it seems like the way to win in this league is by walking the line.

Perhaps the Chiefs are just too nice.

How many times have I said this same thing?

If the league doesn't suspend Talib for admitting to what he did, the rest of the league needs to understand that you establish a healthy fear in the other team EARLY in the game so they have it in their mind the rest of the game.

So Talib made a calculated decision and was right. They'd not see it for what it was, they'd not toss him because it's the SB, and all it cost the Donks was one yard - the Panthers were going in no matter if it was 1 yard or two. And what that one yard bought him was a certain level of fear for the rest of the game.

The NFL has a choice to make and I suspect they'll blow it off with maybe a fine and then make it go away. We can only hope the Chiefs take notes this time and take what the NFL is giving.

Contrarian 02-08-2016 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12072308)
I don't think anyone -- not even Talib -- would argue against that. The thing is, though, no ref is going to eject a player from the Super Bowl just because he did something ejectable -- but hardly unprecedented -- between the whistles.

They will next year! Goodell has already said that he is bringing that to the commission. I just hope they increase the number of players available to play.

Contrarian 02-08-2016 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Squalor2 (Post 12072319)
amendola did this to us with his pf on fleming in the playoffs. talib did the same thing on brown. it was situational football. its called a 15 yarder, but inside the 10, it really doesnt mean squat for yardage. it helps the pats and broncos. cheaters win again.

wanna fix it? if you get a personal foul that keeps a player off the field, you don't play til he comes back. that game. that season.

I like that idea!!

cdcox 02-08-2016 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12072308)
I don't think anyone -- not even Talib -- would argue against that. The thing is, though, no ref is going to eject a player from the Super Bowl just because he did something ejectable -- but hardly unprecedented -- between the whistles.

This was unprecedented. Show me a single example of a more violent facemask penalty that was as violent, as prolonged, was clearly intentional as evidenced by the use of leverage in a way that caused the opposing player to leave his feet.

petegz28 02-08-2016 08:13 PM

4 game suspension...what did Suh get for stepping on someone?

GloryDayz 02-08-2016 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Contrarian (Post 12072324)
They will next year! Goodell has already said that he is bringing that to the commission. I just hope they increase the number of players available to play.

Yeah, like finally buying into rub routes, let's hope we don't pick-up on doing things they year they start calling them.

The Donks and Pats push the rules to ensure they can exploit them the longest. Smart on their part I guess.

ClevelandBronco 02-08-2016 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12072329)
This was unprecedented. Show me a single example of a more violent facemask penalty that was as violent, as prolonged, was clearly intentional as evidenced by the use of leverage in a way that caused the opposing player to leave his feet.

Sure, boy. I'll get right on that.

cdcox 02-08-2016 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12072333)
Sure, boy. I'll get right on that.

Glad you concede my point.

GloryDayz 02-08-2016 08:23 PM

We can hate it all we want, but he's a World Champion thug right now.

I said it in the game yesterday, the Panthers didn't come to play like it was the last game of the year that they had to win.

And next year might be too late, the NFL might actually toss a player for that (even in the SB) after this snub. They'll claim it doesn't bother them, but it's chapping their ass right now. And the whole world called it while the league glossed over it. They let Talib punk them in worst way.

ClevelandBronco 02-08-2016 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12072331)
4 game suspension...what did Suh get for stepping on someone?

Before the whistle? A massive paycheck.

SAUTO 02-08-2016 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12072329)
This was unprecedented. Show me a single example of a more violent facemask penalty that was as violent, as prolonged, was clearly intentional as evidenced by the use of leverage in a way that caused the opposing player to leave his feet.

Derrick Thomas. And he was not ejected from that game.


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