We've all saw the GIFS of the missed open WRs, and I've been hard on him myself.

But Alex is more a victim of circumstance than anything. Fans are just fed up with the result that the 'retread QB' has given the Chiefs.. I think I speak for the majority of posters on here when I say that a lot of the Smith hate will simmer if and when the Chiefs pick a QB early in the draft.

If we grab a Pat Mahomes, the excitement will rejuvenate the fan base and another year of Alex Smith won't sound so bad after all.

I'm not sure the Hunt family has that card int heir deck.

The fan base doesn't need to be "rejuvenated". The Chiefs have won four straight winning seasons and have one of the best squads in the NFL.

I want the Chiefs to draft a QB in the first round but that's a guarantee of nothing.

The NFL is a wasteland of 1st QB's and it's been two decades since the Chiefs have been consistent winners.

Enjoy while it lasts.

The trade for Alex was a profitable trade and I don't outright hate Alex, but he is a broken player.

He doesn't have the confidence to be agressive
He's not willing to run with the ball and use his legs as a weapon
He doesn't throw with any anticipation
He has terrible tunnel vision
He's below average at reading defenses presnap
He takes sacks while in field goal range
He's terrible at identifying mismatches
He has inconsistent mechanics
He gets rattled and goes into a shell

Should I go on?

His career has plateaued and defenses have written the book on how to stop him.

Keep him from being able to run
Flood the short and medium zones
Key on screens
Get him off his spot in the pocket
Don't respect his ability to throw deep

That's it.

Defenses that did that, shut our offense down.

That's all good and all, but I want this team to have a chance at winning a Super Bowl.

I honestly believe that if Dorsey hits on a QB pick, this team can be a dynasty over the next 10-15 years.

Look at the age of this teams stars on both sides of the ball...if KC drafts a QB and continues to draft/develop well, sky's the limit.

The Pro Bowl offense looks exactly the same as the 2013-2016 Chiefs, regardless of whether or not it's Alex or Andy Dalton.

Matt Nagy is calling the plays, too.

This offense is what it is.

Why in the holy hell of gigantic ****s would you feel that?

For EVERY.****ING.INSULT people throw at Alex Smith, Andy Reid is the guy who evaluated him and said to himself "He is the guy i want starting on my football team. Alex Smith is my kind of QB"

Evaluating a QB that has already been in the NFL for years is MUCH easier than trying to decide which college kid is going to work out.

Too bad the pressure won't be on Andy Reid in 2017, he deserves it just as much as Alex Smith.

Fat,satisfied ****er


Missing Ware was much worse than missing Hill.

That rejuvenation will last until around Mahomes' 3rd or 4th loss.

Then the fan base will turn on him with the same venom as they did Alex Smith.

shit, they would have turned on Aaron Rodgers about game 6 of this year.

Matt Ryan, without Julie Jones, was considered a fraud and overrated last year.


Until we win a super bowl, no QB is going to be good enough.


Just the way it is.

I disagree that the fanbase would turn on a rookie QB by his 3rd or 4th loss. We are so desperate for a 1st round QB that, I believe, most of us would give him until year 3 before starting to ask about a replacement.

Perhaps mid year of his second season. :shrug:

Chiefs fans have made excuses ad nauseam for Cassel and Smith going into their third and fourth years.

They'll do the same for a rookie who will be granted even more wiggle room...particularly since there won't be a peep about his contract for four years.

I doubt that. I remember how shitty people were about Green during the 2001 season, myself included. TrINT was how he was generally referred to on this board. I realize he wasn't a first round pick - just traded for one - but he ended up being arguably the best QB we've had since Dawson and people wanted to run him out of town before he got a chance to prove himself.

I think that a lot of that had to do with him being a retread coming off an injury with unknown ability to return from said injury.

Giving up a first rounder for a busted up former first rounder who hadn't really shown he was gonna be a a franchise QB is a far cry from spending one (or one + something else to trade up for one) on a rookie QB you get to groom from scratch.

I understand that some will be impatient but after not having once since Blackledge... we are gonna treat him like Hugo treated Daffy.

youtube.com/watch?v=ArNz8U7tgU4

(still can't embed)

Well, if we do get another year of Alice, coupled with our first place schedule, I think we'll end up drafting really high in 2018.

You're right, only because most of the fan base are ****ing idiots who think Smith is actually a pro bowl quarterback and a losing playoff record is considered a success.

Andy Reid's proven that despite great QB play, his teams win.

The offense could remain in neutral this year and the Chiefs would make the playoffs due to the special teams and defense, coupled with the fact that the Raiders won't win 12 games again, the Broncos have all kinds of problems and the Chargers are a complete joke.

Plus, outside of New England, the entire AFC is iffy.