Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16818358)

13 seconds was so tough. Even chiefs fans never had to endure that much heartbreak.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16818359)

Dee Ford is pretty brutal, especially knowing that it will be used forever against Mahomes to prop up Brady's GOAT status. Patrick outplayed him in that game. Brady had 2 bad turnovers which gave a 14 point swing to KC and Brady would have a 3rd bad turnover to lose the game if Dee Ford simply lined up correctly.

Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 16818353)

They still have 2 years because any extension will likely play out after his 5th year. They will sign him to a massive extension either this year or next year but it won't kick in until after that final rookie deal is expired.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16818267)

The Bills losing Von was huge and exposed the weaknesses throughout that defense. I rewatched the highlights of our loss to them this year. They were a completely different team. I think we would have matched up with a healthy Bills team with how much our rookies jumped from Week 6 to the playoffs, but the Bills being able to get pressure with 4 down lineman hid a lot of their issues in their secondary and made it a tall task to get in a shootout with them. Von's pressure was the most fazed I've seen Mahomes the entire season. He was constantly uncomfortable, even when Von wasn't generating any heat. They now have to hope that a (36?) year old can come back from an ACL tear as dominant as he was, because that contract (6/130) quickly becomes a major albatross if he doesn't.

Diggs removed all Buffalo related images from his instagram. We were able to reload after trading Tyreek. The Bills might be wise to follow suit, but it's much easier said than done to pull off what we did. Especially as their forum has brought up major red flags about their GM's drafting record (saw a comment that said they have been clowned by Veach in the draft two consecutive years -- I'd argue in 2017, too, but that's another topic). Coaching is also a major issue. The Bills offense didn't seem prepared at all for the Bengals defense OR for the weather and their style had been getting honed in on by multiple defenses to end the year. Coaching miscues by McDermott were also major factors in both of our wins against Buffalo in the playoffs.

At the end of the day I think that the Bills can win a SB with Allen, but only if he's healthy and hits one of his hot streaks at the right time. At this point in his career he's taken an insane amount of unnecessary brutality where even his GM made a plea for him to play smarter at the end of this season.

There is still enough talent on that team to win it all, but it's important to recognize that they put all of their chips on the table to win this year. Now that it's over, they have question marks in both their coaching and front office that we've never had in the Reid era (even if I was too much of an idiot to appreciate that until 2017).

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16818373)

People also need to remember what we endured before that. We didn't just bounce into town after Pat showed up. It wasn't all that long ago that I truly feared I'd die of old age before we ever even won another playoff game, let alone a Super Bowl. I listen to people endlessly whine about how lucky we are, how it isn't fair, how we are the ultimate beneficiaries of ref bias, and I can't help but wonder, DID YOU ****ERS ALL LIVE UNDER A ROCK PRIOR TO 2020? Jesus. Being a Chiefs fan was like living under a ladder on the remnants of a dozen broken mirrors with a hundred black cats surrounded by angry voodoo priestesses poking little red dolls. I try to explain this to people and they look at me like I'm crazy. I swear the average fan has the memory capacity of a ****ing goldfish. Seemingly forever, we either sucked or found the most painful ways imaginable to lose important games to inferior teams. We were owned in the playoffs by the goddamn Colts for years. Who did you have to be in a previous life to deserve that? Stalin?

And while I understand the pain Bills fans feel, sorry, but I still remember my own ****ing pain, which went on and on and on for decades. So **** 'em. And all the rest of the haters. We deserve this success. And whatever future success comes our way.

Don't like my Super Bowl jacket? Well, bite me.

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16818373)

People also need to remember what we endured before that. We didn't just bounce into town after Pat showed up. It wasn't all that long ago that I truly feared I'd die of old age before we ever even won another playoff game, let alone a Super Bowl. I listen to people endlessly whine about how lucky we are, how it isn't fair, how we are the ultimate beneficiaries of ref bias, and I can't help but wonder, DID YOU ****ERS ALL LIVE UNDER A ROCK PRIOR TO 2020? Jesus. Being a Chiefs fan was like living under a ladder on the remnants of a dozen broken mirrors with a hundred black cats surrounded by angry voodoo priestesses poking little red dolls. I try to explain this to people and they look at me like I'm crazy. I swear the average fan has the memory capacity of a ****ing goldfish. Seemingly forever, we either sucked or found the most painful ways imaginable to lose important games to inferior teams. We were owned in the playoffs by the goddamn Colts for years. Who did you have to be in a previous life to deserve that? Stalin?

And while I understand the pain Bills fans feel, sorry, but I still remember my own ****ing pain, which went on and on and on for decades. So **** 'em. And all the rest of the haters. We deserve this success. And whatever future success comes our way.

Don't like my Super Bowl jacket? Well, bite me.

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16818358)

13 seconds was so tough. Even chiefs fans never had to endure that much heartbreak. In a year when the chiefs are down due to injury or whatever, I'd pull for Allen and the Bills to finally get one, as long as they continue to respect the greatness of Mahomes!

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 16818395)

Agreed. Nobody cared when it was the Chiefs getting actually screwed by the refs. Not to mention being as snakebitten as a team can get in the playoffs.

We lost to Brady in OT without getting the ball. Nobody cared. The Chiefs suggested a rule change and everyone told them to get fisted and "learn to play defense". 3 years later it happens to the Bills and everyone rushes to claim how unfair the rules are and votes to change them immediately that offseason.

So yeah they can all go fist themselves.

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16818415)

Also don’t forget the Eric Fisher hold in 2016 that erased a 2 point conversion to tie the game, and the Mariota “forward progress” fumble in 2017

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16818271)

I don't think he is soft at all. Allen reminds me of a young Elway scrambling, big and tough to bring down but to Chiefpants point you can only do that for so long as Elway scrambled less as time went on in his career.

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16818415)

Also don’t forget the Eric Fisher hold in 2016 that erased a 2 point conversion to tie the game, and the Mariota “forward progress” fumble in 2017

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16818428)

Trying to remember...was it Cheffers that called the "forward progress " thing for Mariota?

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16818418)

Annnnnnnd the concussion/Andrew Luck game.

Even if punk asses are too young to remember before the decade of darkness the Alex years should still be available to them.