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SAGA45 04-27-2025 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18047471)
Long term run? This guy wasn't drafted to be a 3 down workhorse. Don't expect that. He's a situational home run hitter

He's similar to James Cook and could eventually become a featured back. Not necessarily an every-down workhorse, but a guy who gets the bulk of the touches, particularly passing game work.

duncan_idaho 04-27-2025 06:40 AM

You're not going to run power between the tackles with Smith, but if you want to run outside zone again, he gives you that ability.

We know Moore can block outside zone (you don't get to play T for Shanahan if you can't), and Suamataia at LG has the athleticism to be effective blocking it (he's also a terrifying presence getting to the second level, which is fun).

In the past, Taylor's best run-block grades were on outside zone, if I recall.

So in that regard, Smith could be a sneaky-good add to the running game (though his selection is first-and-foremost about his skills as a receiver).

redfan 04-27-2025 10:02 AM

Reminds me a little of Jet McKinnon.
I really liked the Jet, and I really like this pick.

3rd video, that reverse around 2:00…mmm mmm good

Easy 6 04-27-2025 02:54 PM

I'm still over the moon with this pick, Veach totally made "my" draft with his final move... an unbelievable talent in the 7th

Simply cannot find anything not to like about him

Vision
Patience
Long speed
Short area quicks
Elite stop and start
Strings moves together
Some of his best runs were between the tackles
But its his receiving/route running ability that truly makes him special, he has the potential to be Marshall Faulk-like in that regard... a legit extra receiver on the field who just happens to be a RB, a wildest dreams toy for Andy Reid

RealSNR 04-27-2025 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18047596)
You're not going to run power between the tackles with Smith, but if you want to run outside zone again, he gives you that ability.

We know Moore can block outside zone (you don't get to play T for Shanahan if you can't), and Suamataia at LG has the athleticism to be effective blocking it (he's also a terrifying presence getting to the second level, which is fun).

In the past, Taylor's best run-block grades were on outside zone, if I recall.

So in that regard, Smith could be a sneaky-good add to the running game (though his selection is first-and-foremost about his skills as a receiver).

And even then, I notice he's got a little bit of that Kareem Hunt balance to his game. At the very least, he's not going down just by getting breathed on. He can break out of a flimsy tackle attempt if he needs to.

-King- 04-27-2025 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 18048022)
I'm still over the moon with this pick, Veach totally made "my" draft with his final move... an unbelievable talent in the 7th

Simply cannot find anything not to like about him

Vision
Patience
Long speed
Short area quicks
Elite stop and start
Strings moves together
Some of his best runs were between the tackles
But its his receiving/route running ability that truly makes him special, he has the potential to be Marshall Faulk-like in that regard... a legit extra receiver on the field who just happens to be a RB, a wildest dreams toy for Andy Reid

RB is my favorite position so I'm so excited about his potential. I really hope he works out. We'll be ridiculous on offense with his kind of talent mixed in with our WRs.

Buehler445 04-27-2025 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 18048452)
RB is my favorite position so I'm so excited about his potential. I really hope he works out. We'll be ridiculous on offense with his kind of talent mixed in with our WRs.

I think Mahomes doesn’t like throwing to RBs. Thinks he can make something happen downfield.

If he can take some Kelce pressure relief targets and put them on our guy here there will be some real pressure on a defense. Especially if X and Hollywood are going deep on a defense.

I’m not here to criticize Mahomes but hopefully he can unlock RB passes and make things easier on himself.

-King- 04-28-2025 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 18048456)
I think Mahomes doesn’t like throwing to RBs. Thinks he can make something happen downfield.

If he can take some Kelce pressure relief targets and put them on our guy here there will be some real pressure on a defense. Especially if X and Hollywood are going deep on a defense.

I’m not here to criticize Mahomes but hopefully he can unlock RB passes and make things easier on himself.

I think it's half that and Reid changing up how he uses backs and Pacheco being a bad receiving back. We used to be real creative with how Jamaal, Charcandrick, Jet in 22 and Kareem lined up, what kind of routes they ran, etc.

We also used to spam screen passes like they were going out of style. I think I can count on one hand the number of RB screens we've ran the past couple years. And almost zero Texas routes. Bring some of those plays back with Smith and he could be great. Especially with his WR background

UChieffyBugger 04-28-2025 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 18048456)
I think Mahomes doesn’t like throwing to RBs. Thinks he can make something happen downfield.

If he can take some Kelce pressure relief targets and put them on our guy here there will be some real pressure on a defense. Especially if X and Hollywood are going deep on a defense.

I’m not here to criticize Mahomes but hopefully he can unlock RB passes and make things easier on himself.

Jet Mckinnon had 61 receptions, 544 yards and 9 TD's in 2022.

Damien Williams had 41 receptions for 306 yards and 4 TD's in 2019.

Kareem Hunt had 26 receptions, 378 yards and 7 TD's. IN 11 GAMES in 2018

Pacheco in 2023 had 56 receptions, 304 yards and 2 TD's.

Samaji Perine had 29 receptions, 339 yards and 1 TD.

Any notion that Pat doesn't like throwing to running backs simply doesn't comply with the numbers. Demarcus Robinson, Byron Pringle, Justin Watson, Skyy Moore or Noah Gray haven't had 50 plus receptions in a season with Pat like Jet and Pacheco have. And this new Smith kid is a legit receiver unlike this other backs Pat has played with so I have no doubt whatsoever that he will throw to him.

UChieffyBugger 04-28-2025 04:02 AM

As for Brashard. Maybe I'm crazy but when I watch him run and do his stop, start, jump cuts etc I see shades of Tyreek In his game. I just have a feeling this kid could be an absolute revelation for this team in the future if he keeps his head in the playbook and grinds hard to perfect his craft just like Hill did.

In58men 04-28-2025 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 18048500)
As for Brashard. Maybe I'm crazy but when I watch him run and do his stop, start, jump cuts etc I see shades of Tyreek In his game. I just have a feeling this kid could be an absolute revelation for this team in the future if he keeps his head in the playbook and grinds hard to perfect his craft just like Hill did.

It’s all going to depend on the OL.

That’s the biggest glare with our offense right now. No OL, no running game.

Morris- Unkown
Kingsley- Underwhelming
Creed- GOAT
Smith- Solid
Taylor- False start guard, but just an average RT.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-28-2025 05:24 AM

My only fear about this dude is he may never be a good enough blocker to be fully trusted by Reid/Mahomes to be the true third down back. McKinnon was such an incredible blocker. Man, I miss that guy.

Even if he can never get to that point, he’ll still be a great and explosive gadget guy. Can’t ask for more from a 7th rounder.

tmax63 04-28-2025 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 18047525)
I take it you didn't read the Simmons thread?

I definitely read it. I just trust the Chiefs medical guys to do their senatorial role of advise and consent and either approve or veto the pick. They think they solved LT with Moore, but with Simmons they might be set for a decade. If he only comes back 80-90% of what he could of been, that's still better than anyone on the current roster except maybe Moore. I guess I just trust the medical guys to know their shit more than most people here. And by WTF moments I was talking about positional needs going into the draft and drafting to fill those, not debate over individual picks.

nychief 04-28-2025 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 18048509)
My only fear about this dude is he may never be a good enough blocker to be fully trusted by Reid/Mahomes to be the true third down back. McKinnon was such an incredible blocker. Man, I miss that guy.

Even if he can never get to that point, he’ll still be a great and explosive gadget guy. Can’t ask for more from a 7th rounder.

Yeah… I think he might just be a gadget player…which is fine for a 7th rnd pick.

Buehler445 04-28-2025 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 18048494)
Jet Mckinnon had 61 receptions, 544 yards and 9 TD's in 2022.

Damien Williams had 41 receptions for 306 yards and 4 TD's in 2019.

Kareem Hunt had 26 receptions, 378 yards and 7 TD's. IN 11 GAMES in 2018

Pacheco in 2023 had 56 receptions, 304 yards and 2 TD's.

Samaji Perine had 29 receptions, 339 yards and 1 TD.

Any notion that Pat doesn't like throwing to running backs simply doesn't comply with the numbers. Demarcus Robinson, Byron Pringle, Justin Watson, Skyy Moore or Noah Gray haven't had 50 plus receptions in a season with Pat like Jet and Pacheco have. And this new Smith kid is a legit receiver unlike this other backs Pat has played with so I have no doubt whatsoever that he will throw to him.

Excellent point. I'm open to being wrong here, but it feels like Mahomes leaves some easy shit on the table. Now, I'm not one to criticize, Mahomes is the best there's been. I've planted my flag and am willing to die on the hill. But sometimes, especially when you're OL is getting shitkicked the play is to get it to a RB and move on. Part of that is what makes Mahomes Mahomes (the best there's been), but he's good at knowing the situation and sometimes, that's the play.

I'm obviously not in the offensive meetings. I know they want to do a lot of set up this so they can rape with that kind of thing. But from my seat, hit that RB instead of getting killed.


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