Total package? Not really. He's a pure pass rusher that struggles in coverage and against the run.

Absolutely a good pick, but not at all a "total package".

You are like hekyll and Jyde...
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He's a speed rush LB. I'm not overly concerned about his coverage abilities, and he's better against the run than he is given credit for. He's no longer going to be playing DE on the strong side. With his speed, strength, and work ethic along with learning from Gibbs, Hali and Houston it's a given he will continue to improve in those areas.

SNR, I see you're at it again. Nice.

I was lukewarm on the pick, but after that presser, holy smokes, the kid seems extremely well composed. He gained points right there. I think the big question will be whether or not he can do much besides rush the passer. Hey, he's joining a very good LB corps; good place to learn. I'm warming to the pick. Hopefully, he'll be so stinking good that you'll claim you loved him from the get go!

I bet you're just kidding, but if not, judge this...

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Mouthbreathers who only know how to drink booze and grunt in the weight room don't give a flip about things like this.

My ex-wife was a piano teacher in her spare time, I've seen plenty of good ivory tickling...

Terrible.

If I were his piano teacher, I'd tell him to quit playing flat-wristed. He's got a ton of shoulder tension, too. The dude probably is terrible at his scales outside of the ones that fit the hand well like B and E major.

He's really got to get more of an elastic elbow. He has absolutely no power to his sound. He's playing from the base instead of allowing his weight to distribute sound into the right hand and the melody.

I could also dig at his improvisational choices, but that would take too much time.

If I had to guess and kinda just simplify that critique... I would say that his flaws are a mix of being too strong and knowing it - therefore artificially altering his stroke, trying to be delicate/fancy and coming off stiff - and he probably hasn't regularly practiced in a looong time.

Anyway...

GET OFF THE KIDS BACK CURMUDGEON HE'S A MUSICAL PRODIGY/QB SOUL CRUSHING DEMON.

How many guys in the NFL do all 3 of those things well?

Also how is he terrible in coverage when he wasnt asked to play in coverage? Same thing with Justin Houston

How can you be sure I even have a mother? :hmmm:

Justin Houston...

Because eggs that aren't fertilized either get flushed or eaten...

I bet this guy has moAr sacks his first 8 games than Tyson Jackson had in five seasons with the Chiefs. 9 Sacks.

Well it may take D Ford more than 8 games to get 9 sacks but he will way more disruptive in the backfield and get notice.

I'm putting it out there that Dee Ford will get 9 sacks his first 8 games. Over/Under ?

Justin Houston plays in coverage all the time and he's pretty good at it.

He articulates very well, I will say that. If he used arm weight more to his advantage, he could have a much easier time using the bounceback of the piano keys to do the staccato for him. The fact that he plays so flat-wristed seems to me that he's doing all that work from fingers. Yes, you need active and energetic fingers to play good staccato, but he's gotta be doing more work than he needs to be doing. It's not efficient playing, which is preventing him from doing some REALLY cool things in his sound, like producing a solid forte with absolutely zero tension in his posture or his arms.

From listening, it appears he's a very intelligent individual who discovered voice leading completely on his own. It's a shame that he hasn't had more formal training, because this guy could have been REALLY good.

Dude, you're awesome. Hilarious.

And awesome.

:clap:

Because I'd say it's a pretty safe assumption to predict that a guy that hardly ever dropped into coverage is going to struggle dropping back to cover NFL caliber receivers.

Houston got beat pretty badly in coverage as a rookie.

SNR should hook up with my ex, they could talk that talk all night long while boring each others brains out together over American Idol.

You had me intrigued until American Idol.

It's probably a good thing you divorced her.

LMAO He isnt covering shit.

Damn, I guess we better not draft him. .... oops.

I would read an entire blog of SNR breaking down athletes' musical capabilities like draft scouting reports.

I just watched his presser and the video of playing piano and I gotta say, I love this guy!!! I'm excited to watch him play and grow into the football player he tells us he can be.

I agree-loved the interviews with him so far. I think we got a great player. :thumb:

I have to admit, I have concerns about the Dee Ford pick.

He is a 1 trick pony (speed rusher) with short arms. The Waldo rushing formula shows he is a high risk of failure, and I would agree. I hope he succeeds nonetheless.

So Ford and Clowney are "high risk" but Scott freaking Crichton is "med-low risk"?

:facepalm:

You're a 1 trick pony. You shut it and stick to Police brutality stories. ;)

Here is the data behind it
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...3&postcount=11

I know there's data behind but sometimes all the statistics in the world produce bogus results...

It's not math, it's football.

Me too
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Yet cp doesn't like the pick. This place is dumber than all hell.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:10831231

Better Sports Science video resolution

This pick was sooo freakin needed, the first time Hali or Houston go out the dissenters will be thanking their lucky stars we have a scary athlete ready to throw in.

Stack the defense, look at the dominant defenses of the last few years like the Giants of a few years ago or the current Seahawks, straight up loaded with pass rushers... anyone mad about this pick is smoking CRACK, you too, Sacc.

Waldo formula ROFL you guys are ****ed in the head

Thinking out loud here: Dee Ford must be very excited because he has a lot of free reign.

Tamba, Poe and Houston absolutely demand double teams. I think Walker could get some of the attention too based on his numbers last year (43 QB pressures last year).

Dee Ford on the field with all these guys is just not fair for offensive lines. I think we could see a lot of sacks and pressures from him this season.

It's too bad dee ford struggles against the run because this is a rushing league.

I want to run the 5 man front with 6 in coverage behind that. Works beautifully in Madden.:D

Imagine this for a second on obvious passing downs.

Walker and Poe lined up in the A gap and 2 of the three pass rushers of Tamba, Houston and Ford lined up to rush outside while the last guy is just roaming around the LOS choosing where to go in a "joker" role.

JFC this is going to be fun.

Yeah, but can Sutton do it? I'd rather have Ford out there in that Joker role as a pass rusher and have Berry in coverage. Sure Berry is a nice blitzing safety but we need him providing coverage far more than we need him trying to sack the QB. That's why we brought in the extra pass rusher in the 1st round.

;)

Sarcasm aside, Seattle and San Francisco will abuse him when he's on the field.

It may be a passing league, but the two best teams kill you on the ground.

Ford will be in on obvious passing downs. It'll be easy to sub against the 49ers because Kaepernick always seems to take forever to run his plays.

And Wilson?

Regardless, it's pretty ****ing stupid to dismiss the running game when the 2 best teams in this league ground and pound.

Ford isn't as bad as you guys seem to think he is against the run. Vs Wilson will be the same thing, Ford will only come in on passing downs because Lynch is a freaken beast.

3rd and 5 a passing down?

If I'm Seattle, I'm running the ball right at Ford.

sorry, but Vance walker has 43 pressures last year? Wtf? That's beastly.
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So, what kind of front will that be?

Double stack ROLB 3/5 with a single safety?

I nearly forgot about signing him.

Why did Dee Ford cross the scrimmage line?
















To kill Peyton Manning.

I don't have a problem with Berry blitzing. If we were talking about designed blitzes, yes. But the reason Berry blitzes is to keep QBs on their toes. The QB has no idea what Berry is going to do until after the ball is snapped.

Attaochu is a better pass rusher.

He's certainly a better all around linebacker.

That was a helluva pick for your guys.

All good in theory, but who is going to make up for Berry in coverage if he's our best safety in coverage?

Dee's a good investment and will instantly become a part of a fearsome rotation. He's obviously a CYA pick for Tamba. It's a shame for the Chiefs that it had to be done that high and you couldn't move down some spots and get an extra 3rd or 4th.

Wah - waaaaaah :doh!:

Why is 6 afraid of 7?













Because Dee Ford is standing behind it.

That wa the Eagles thinking and they ****ed themselves.

He's a better all-around player but he doesn't have Ford's first step.

Attaochu benefitted a lot from being by far the best player on his defense and playing in the ACC...

Why not. They often run right at Hali too. It's one of the knocks on the 3-4.

Inside the Falcons' pursuit of Dee Ford
(highlight)

Nice. **** you Pioli.

Scooter is a failure ROFL

Pioli wanted Dee Ford? I might have to restrain my enthusiasm about the pick.

Why trade up for Julio when Jon Baldwin will fall into your lap?

Falcons meaning Dmitroff. Scooter grabs his coffee ROFL

Shit. I read that wrong.

Dee Ford signs contract, takes part in Chiefs rookie minicamp
By TEREZ A. PAYLOR
The Kansas City Star

Thanks to the new collective-bargaining agreement, it’s no longer a pipe dream to expect first-round picks to participate in rookie camp. Instead of negotiations dragging on through training camp, top picks can be signed, sealed and delivered in a matter of weeks — just like Dee Ford.

Ford, the Chiefs’ first-round pick in this year’s draft, agreed to a four-year deal with the club shortly before the first practice of their three-day rookie minicamp began Saturday, and all involved — executives, coaches and even Ford, himself — couldn’t have been happier.

“(It’s) a lot of relief — I hate business,” said Ford, who became the ninth first-round pick to agree to a deal. “I just want to play football.”

Chiefs coach Andy Reid even took time Saturday to thank two of the men prominently involved for helping them sign their entire six-man draft class before the camp.

“I want to give a shout out to (director of football administration) Trip (MacCracken) and (salary cap/contract analyst) Brandt Tilis — all the draft picks are signed,” Reid said. “It’s good to have them all on board here and ready to go. That’s the way the new CBA works, you’re able to slot those rookies and get them knocked out fairly quick.”

Which, of course, allows them to focus on football. And Ford, who had 10 1/2 sacks last season for Auburn and 20 1/2 during his career, already has been given a clear idea of his job description as he transitions to defensive end to outside linebacker in the Chiefs’ 3-4 defense.

“I’m gonna rush the passer,” Ford said. “I’m dropping in coverage, and they’re doing a great job of teaching me and I’m learning the system. It’s becoming second nature.”

It’s hard to glean much from a non-padded rookie minicamp practice, but Ford — who is listed at 6 feet 2 and 252 pounds — had an interception on the first play of the practice, which he caught off a deflection in coverage.

“Well, the biggest question is ‘Can I drop in coverage’ — I think I answered that question,” Ford said, half-jokingly. “It was great teamwork. The guy batted the ball to me, and I reacted to that.”

Ford also showed up to practice wearing a new number, 55, after being assigned No. 90 immediately after the draft.

The last Chiefs to wear the number was linebacker Akeem Jordan, who wore it last year, but it nonetheless seems to have some special meaning to Ford.

“I would have played in any number, but you know, of course 55 came available and this is Derrick Thomas’ college number, so it’s all good,” Ford said. “I’m not trying to be Derrick Thomas, but he’s a guy that definitely inspires me. The opportunity presented itself so I took it.”

Indeed, Thomas (who was recently selected into the 2014 College Football Hall of Fame) wore No. 55 at Alabama, where he set the single-season NCAA Division I-A (now Football Bowl Subdivision)sack record with 27 in 1988.

Again, no one is comparing Ford to Thomas, least of all Reid. But it must have been nice to see Ford up close and personal Saturday when he showed off his trademark speed around the corner on a handful of plays, including one where he lined up in a three-point stance and shot past sixth-round tackle Laurent Duvernay-Tardif with a particularly nasty swim move.

“You get to see how explosive he is,” Reid said.

Reid and his staff are banking on it. And with Ford’s contract stuff finally out of the way, they’re also hoping he continues to develop as he tries to carve out a role on this year’s team behind starters Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

“They’re gonna beat it in my brains until I get it,” Ford said, “but I fit perfectly in the system playing behind Justin and Tamba.”

Its going to be fun to watch this guy. Detractors complain he's weak against the run, but DT wasn't ever that great against the run either. As far as coverage goes, why would you have one of your best pass rushers going AWAY from the QB at the snap of the football?

Id much rather see Ford on the field with Hali and Houston rather than backing them up. Its a nice overload situation with one side of the line having to block both Ford and Hali/Houston whichever side he lines up on.

Id rather see DeVito come out on a passing down and have Ford, Poe, Walker on the line and Hali/Houston/Johnson/whoever playing behind that.

They have to find some way to get all of our top talent on the field, instead of just riding the bench.

I love this kids attitude towards the game.

I think you're right.

I might be inclined to use Hali, DJ, Houston and Ford as the 4 LBs in the 3-4 base package.

I think the same.

I want to see dee ford pound manning into the ground and our secondary clean the clocks of all those bitch ass pick route running Denver pussies

Insert flowers clowning wes welker gif here

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Daffy duck jacking off gif

Too bad Flowers couldn't actually cover him.

Not sure I have a very good grasp of you yet...
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Simple, I don't think that Flowers was a very good corner last year. Certainly not worth top 10 money to play as the #1 in this system.

Not just talking about flowers. Just in general
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