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chiefzilla1501 02-26-2018 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 13441261)
FTR, I'm still not buying into your theory of murderous meany masses making Peters cry with their boos and hisses.

But even if I were, you're still missing the dynamic that one side is the customer, paying millions for entertainment, and the other is the performer putting millions in the bank.

Whatever about the performance displeases them, what's the incentive to remain silent about it? Do they get a game check? Or is it just the warm feeling of being a polite audience?

So all customers supported trolling good players? Did it ever occur to you that there are many fans who want to win at all costs, and are disgusted at fans who put their social activism above winning? Are these fans supposed to be polite about it?

And go ahead and check the timeline. Peters' most visible protest headline was the day of the Vegas shooting before the Redskins game. He took a ton of shit for the protest, signs all over the stadium specifically directed at him in a nationally televised game, and it made national headlines. That week, he snaps at fans who were obviously trolling him. Next week, he snaps at Sutton. Two weeks later, the bizarre Raiders game and his road trip with Marshawn. But yeah, I'm sure that game had little impact whatsoever on his mental state.

DaneMcCloud 02-26-2018 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 13441286)
He better know how to tote the Hunt company line.

In a backpack or gym bag?

cdcox 02-26-2018 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13441281)
I shudder to think what the Chiefs franchise will do without your fandom

It's not a threat. It just isn't fun any more. If it were not for the hope that Mahomes can be a HOF QB, there just isn't anything about this franchise to be excited about.

DaneMcCloud 02-26-2018 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by canoworms (Post 13441290)
It's not a threat. It just isn't fun any more. If it were not for the hope that Mahomes can be a HOF QB, there just isn't anything about this franchise to be excited about.

LMAO

Mahomes is 22 years old. His Hall of Fame case is at least 20 years in the future, if ever.

Good ****ing grief.

BlackOp 02-26-2018 11:09 PM

The most mystifying part of this...is "supposedly" no other team was interested. It's not like the guy was arrested or had pending legal issues. He didnt beat anyone up or slap around a woman. He wasnt on PEDs...or busted with guns/drugs.

He was an emotional hothead...but this is football and he's putting up potential HOF numbers...and costs next to nothing.

The NFL, universally, just treated the Chiefs like he was a leper w/ no redeeming value...which is fishy as ****.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2018 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13441289)
In a backpack or gym bag?

Warner Bros. hobo-style:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...bfab0a73bcd7-c

BossPooper 02-26-2018 11:12 PM

**** an a. Tell me one reason why any black player would pick the Chiefs over another team. Our only hope is that Mahomes is so spectacular that our winning supersedes all. But I wouldn't count on any free agents coming to KC.

FloridaMan88 02-26-2018 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13441255)
You moron.

If Paylor, Teicher or others aired the Chiefs dirty laundry, they’d be railroaded out. There is some give and take with media relations, specifically for the local beat guys. They know more than they report, but also value their jobs.

JFC were you alive 6 years ago when KC Star reporters unloaded massive tons of the Chiefs’ dirty laundry in the form of the “Arrowhead Anxiety” special report that essentially was the beginning of the end for Fat Scott in KC?!

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2018 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13441294)
The most mystifying part of this...is "supposedly" no other team was interested. It's not like the guy was arrested or had pending legal issues. He didnt beat anyone up or slap around a woman. He wasnt on PEDs...or busted with guns/drugs.

He was an emotional hothead...but this is football and he's putting up potential HOF numbers...and costs next to nothing.

The NFL, universally, just treated the Chiefs like he was a leper w/ no redeeming value...which is fishy as ****.

Not really. When you consider that this is not the same league as the one we grew up with, it makes much more sense.

cdcox 02-26-2018 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13441293)
LMAO

Mahomes is 22 years old. His Hall of Fame case is at least 20 years in the future, if ever.

Good ****ing grief.

Within 5 years of starting we'll know whether he's on the trajectory.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2018 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossPooper (Post 13441299)
**** an a. Tell me one reason why any black player would pick the Chiefs over another team. Our only hope is that Mahomes is so spectacular that our winning supersedes all. But I wouldn't count on any free agents coming to KC.

Winning cures all ills. Imagine how many "black players" were waiting in line to go to sunny Boston in 1999?

BlackOp 02-26-2018 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Claysexual (Post 13441305)
Not really. When you consider that this is not the same league as the one we grew up with, it makes much more sense.

Not if Reid and Peters were on good terms...then there is no logical explanation for zero interest.

Something is bogus...and I'm sticking with the LA only theory.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13441313)
Not if Reid and Peters were on good terms...then there is no logical explanation for zero interest.

Something is bogus...and I'm sticking with the LA only theory.

"Building LA" is it?

Good luck with that, NFL. Seriously, that whole thing is gonna' flop. The Rams have been gone far too long and NO ONE gives a **** about the Chargers. I hope they sink every shitty penny they have in to that glorified trash-heap. The collapse will be spectacular.

splatbass 02-26-2018 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13441259)
Sucks that a rookie contract QB is being minimalized by a rebuild. Hoping we can put a roster together like Philly did.

And yes this is a complete rebuild of the defense. Half or more guys are being replaced.

Half of them need to be replaced. We got poor performance from at least half the defense.

BlackOp 02-26-2018 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Claysexual (Post 13441322)
"Building LA" is it?

Good luck with that, NFL. Seriously, that whole thing is gonna' flop. The Rams have been gone far too long and NO ONE gives a **** about the Chargers. I hope they sink every shitty penny they have in to that glorified trash-heap. The collapse will be spectacular.

I agree with you on that front...but the NFL will die trying to make them a success. You thought 3 free plays against the Raiders was horseshit...wait until the Mexico game. ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2018 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13441340)
I agree with you on that front...but the NFL will die trying to make them a success. You thought 3 free plays against the Raiders was horseshit...wait until the Mexico game. ROFL

Meh. It's dirty Mexico, filled with dirty Mexicans; I would expect no less!

NWTF 02-27-2018 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13441294)
The most mystifying part of this...is "supposedly" no other team was interested. It's not like the guy was arrested or had pending legal issues. He didnt beat anyone up or slap around a woman. He wasnt on PEDs...or busted with guns/drugs.

He was an emotional hothead...but this is football and he's putting up potential HOF numbers...and costs next to nothing.

The NFL, universally, just treated the Chiefs like he was a leper w/ no redeeming value...which is fishy as ****.


Not really. The limited interest was Peters refusal to sign a extension with any teams other than those in Cali. The Browns and Colts had interest initially, but withdrew once they were told he had no desire to go there and if they did trade for him he would not resign. So considering ALL the risks involved its easy to see why there was a lack of interest. The Raiders and Chargers were automatically eliminated as possibilities which left the Rams and 49ers. The Chiefs tried to grant his wishes and deal with a team that he agreed to play for and if everything goes well, resign with.

cdcox 02-27-2018 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 13441378)
Not really. The limited interest was Peters refusal to sign a extension with any teams other than those in Cali. The Browns and Colts had interest initially, but withdrew once they were told he had no desire to go there and if they did trade for him he would not resign. So considering ALL the risks involved its easy to see why there was a lack of interest. The Raiders and Chargers were automatically eliminated as possibilities which left the Rams and 49ers. The Chiefs tried to grant his wishes and deal with a team that he agreed to play for and if everything goes well, resign with.

This has a grain of truth. At the same time it illustrates why you can't decide whether you will make a trade until you know what the offer is. We gave Peters away at essentially what we would have got in FA compensation. Clark is still a neophyte in this league.

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2018 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by canoworms (Post 13441388)
This has a grain of truth. At the same time it illustrates why you can't decide whether you will make a trade until you know what the offer is. We gave Peters away at essentially what we would have got in FA compensation. Clark is still a neophyte in this league.

Again, this is pure speculation.

If Peters didn’t have any altercations with fans, players or the coaching staff in 2018, the Chiefs would likely receive a 3rd Comp Pick in 2019.

Furthermore, Peters would be allowed to choose his team.

How would you feel if Peters was a Raider, Charger or Bronco for years on end?

From a pure football perspective, I am absolutely not a fan of this trade. But my better judgment says that if the Chiefs had no intention of picking up his 5th year option and no intention of signing him to a long term extension, at least they were able to choose his destination, which is out of the AFC and AFC West in particular.

They’re also receiving far better compensation than a late 3rd round 2019 draft choice and at minimum, 33 slots ahead of a 3rd round Comp pick, which are usually between 97-106, along with a 4th this year.

It’s a damn shame that the Chiefs felt they needed to part with Marcus Peters but in the end, it could have been a lot worse.

cdcox 02-27-2018 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13441396)
Again, this is pure speculation.

If Peters didn’t have any altercations with fans, players or the coaching staff in 2018, the Chiefs would likely receive a 3rd Comp Pick in 2019.

Furthermore, Peters would be allowed to choose his team.

How would you feel if Peters was a Raider, Charger or Bronco for years on end?

From a pure football perspective, I am absolutely not a fan of this trade. But my better judgment says that if the Chiefs had no intention of picking up his 5th year option and no intention of signing him to a long term extension, at least they were able to choose his destination, which is out of the AFC and AFC West in particular.

They’re also receiving far better compensation than a late 3rd round 2019 draft choice and at minimum, 33 slots ahead of a 3rd round Comp pick, which are usually between 97-106, along with a 4th this year.

It’s a damn shame that the Chiefs felt they needed to part with Marcus Peters but in the end, it could have been a lot worse.

If we got a a 3rd round 2019 pick through FA, at least he played for us in 2018. plus we have an option for 2019. We sold him at the bottom of the market.

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2018 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by canoworms (Post 13441403)
If we got a a 3rd round 2019 pick through FA, at least he played for us in 2018. plus we have an option for 2019. We sold him at the bottom of the market.

Good grief

BlackOp 02-27-2018 01:21 AM

When it's all said and done...this scenario only happened because CHunt is a spineless turd. He valued the opinions of racist, couch patriots and the faux-wholesome appearance of his product more than winning. He had to protect the image of the fake anthem celebration, also, as he was being payed, covertly, by the DOD to do so...that's some shady shit.

You can blame Peters...but under all the layers of horseshit, Chunt being a greedy corporate weasel with no soul is the root of the issue.

This team will never win anything as long as the Hunts own it....

Bugeater 02-27-2018 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13441098)
He did... by someone other than Marcus Peters in the middle of a game.

It's not like anyone else was stepping up to the plate.

Bugeater 02-27-2018 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BossPooper (Post 13441299)
**** an a. Tell me one reason why any black player would pick the Chiefs over another team. Our only hope is that Mahomes is so spectacular that our winning supersedes all. But I wouldn't count on any free agents coming to KC.

****, here we go with this shit again....

ARROW2 02-27-2018 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13441396)
Again, this is pure speculation.

If Peters didn’t have any altercations with fans, players or the coaching staff in 2018, the Chiefs would likely receive a 3rd Comp Pick in 2019.

Furthermore, Peters would be allowed to choose his team.

How would you feel if Peters was a Raider, Charger or Bronco for years on end?

From a pure football perspective, I am absolutely not a fan of this trade. But my better judgment says that if the Chiefs had no intention of picking up his 5th year option and no intention of signing him to a long term extension, at least they were able to choose his destination, which is out of the AFC and AFC West in particular.

They’re also receiving far better compensation than a late 3rd round 2019 draft choice and at minimum, 33 slots ahead of a 3rd round Comp pick, which are usually between 97-106, along with a 4th this year.

It’s a damn shame that the Chiefs felt they needed to part with Marcus Peters but in the end, it could have been a lot worse.



THIS!!!! Yeah, keep him for a year, let him walk and then play against him two times a year against Oakland and watch him and Beast Mode dance for 30 minutes on the sideline whenever they squeak out a win against us. No thanks!

ARROW2 02-27-2018 01:47 AM

So we basically get two picks for him, one of which is better than the ONE we would have gotten by keeping him and then letting him go. Everybody stop crying and acting like the team doesn't want to win by letting him go. Keeping Alex would have been the HUGE mistake that indicates no desire to win because we KNOW hos that story ends. Again, this team goes as far as 2PM's talent takes them.

Red Dawg 02-27-2018 03:06 AM

2PM! YEEEEEEEEE÷EEEEEEW#####$$$$%%^^^$$$$$$$@@ssssssss!

Skyy God 02-27-2018 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13441416)
So we basically get two picks for him, one of which is better than the ONE we would have gotten by keeping him and then letting him go. Everybody stop crying and acting like the team doesn't want to win by letting him go. Keeping Alex would have been the HUGE mistake that indicates no desire to win because we KNOW hos that story ends. Again, this team goes as far as 2PM's talent takes them.

Chiefs received a net increase of a 2019 pick.

Don’t break out the kazoos. It was an epically bad haul for an ascending All-Pro.

SAUTO 02-27-2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13441248)
I'm just curious and am going to pretend that you are completely "in the know". (Which you very well could be)

All the bullshit aside, do you know if MP had major conflict with Bob Sutton and his defense?

no clue. i dont know anyone on that side

ARROW2 02-27-2018 07:21 AM

[QUOTE=Cave Johnson;13441466]Chiefs received a net increase of a 2019 pick.

Don’t break out the kazoos. It was an epically bad haul for an ascending All-Pro.[/QUOTE

So you would break out the kazoos for a 3rd round comp pick in 2020?

GloryDayz 02-27-2018 07:59 AM

The idiots on 610 were going off on the fans this morning. They reminded me why I quit listening to their shitty show. They make one stupid comment after another.

At least it was a short drive.

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Mecca 02-27-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13441540)
The idiots on 610 were going off on the fans this morning. They reminded me why I quit listening to their shitty show. They make one stupid comment after another.

At least it was a short drive.

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Yea they're stupid alright, how terrible they don't agree that the Chiefs trading one of their top players for nothing is brilliant.

Red Dawg 02-27-2018 08:04 AM

The trade sucks as bad as Peters attitude and antics. He's an immature hood rat asshole that Clark wasn't going to pay so that's that. That's two teams hes been thrown off of in his football career.
We should pass judgement on this player movement after Veach has a chance to do something.

Mecca 02-27-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13441552)
The trade sucks as bad as Peters attitude and antics. He's an immature hood rat asshole that Clark wasn't going to pay so that's that. That's two teams hes been thrown off of in his football career.
We should pass judgement on this player movement after Veach has a chance to do something.

Do you understand that your post is highly racist man?

Red Dawg 02-27-2018 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13441544)
Yea they're stupid alright, how terrible they don't agree that the Chiefs trading one of their top players for nothing is brilliant.

What's stupid about them is all they bring up is the anthem as if that's the only reason Peters was traded. There were many reasons and he was also kicked out of college and it had nothing to do with the anthem. He's a hot headed prick.

Mecca 02-27-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13441560)
What's stupid about them is all they bring up is the anthem as if that's the only reason Peters was traded. There were many reasons and he was also kicked out of college and it had nothing to do with the anthem. He's a hot headed prick.


Well so is Travis Kelce, how'd that work out?

Red Dawg 02-27-2018 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13441559)
Do you understand that your post is highly racist man?

No it isn't. Drive down Paseo, plenty of hood rats that are white and mexican.

Mecca 02-27-2018 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13441566)
No it isn't. Drive down Paseo, plenty of hood rats that are white and mexican.

Yes it is, you are using the term "hood rat" instead of another one same way people use thug. That is basically casual racism because you change the term doesn't mean you change what it implies.

Jimkcchief88 02-27-2018 08:16 AM

Aw cmon nobody on CP is racist:)

Al Bundy 02-27-2018 08:26 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs called all 31 other teams about Marcus Peters. 28 took a hard pass or offered nothing of value. <a href="https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SI_PeterKing</a> on why Kansas City moved on from its star cornerback: <a href="https://t.co/EAVdfM504G">https://t.co/EAVdfM504G</a> <a href="https://t.co/ppLh2tJQlg">pic.twitter.com/ppLh2tJQlg</a></p>&mdash; Sports Illustrated (@SInow) <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow/status/968489854521790464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Chiefnj2 02-27-2018 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13441592)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs called all 31 other teams about Marcus Peters. 28 took a hard pass or offered nothing of value. <a href="https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SI_PeterKing</a> on why Kansas City moved on from its star cornerback: <a href="https://t.co/EAVdfM504G">https://t.co/EAVdfM504G</a> <a href="https://t.co/ppLh2tJQlg">pic.twitter.com/ppLh2tJQlg</a></p>&mdash; Sports Illustrated (@SInow) <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow/status/968489854521790464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Thanks for the link.

My only comments are that: (1) it is still KC leaking all the info so you have to take it with a grain of salt, (2) Peters and Kelce should have been disciplined before things got to the point they did, (3) interesting that they say Peters practiced hard. Maybe he wasn't a huge headache M-G, and (4) the kneeling/sitting played a role.

oldandslow 02-27-2018 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13441592)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs called all 31 other teams about Marcus Peters. 28 took a hard pass or offered nothing of value. <a href="https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SI_PeterKing</a> on why Kansas City moved on from its star cornerback: <a href="https://t.co/EAVdfM504G">https://t.co/EAVdfM504G</a> <a href="https://t.co/ppLh2tJQlg">pic.twitter.com/ppLh2tJQlg</a></p>&mdash; Sports Illustrated (@SInow) <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow/status/968489854521790464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I don't doubt that this is true. What I doubt is the concept of selling low on a player who could make a HUGE difference on the next several years defenses.

Just keep him. If it doesn't work out then dfa his butt and oh well. If it does, then everyone is happy.

What you DO NOT DO is settle for mediocrity. A fourth and a second (third round value) is settling for mediocrity.

GloryDayz 02-27-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13441544)
Yea they're stupid alright, how terrible they don't agree that the Chiefs trading one of their top players for nothing is brilliant.

Trading an active, festering, bleeding, and expanding cancer that can't tackle is bad?

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GloryDayz 02-27-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13441559)
Do you understand that your post is highly racist man?

LMAO, here we go with this again.

Take a seat dude, that ship has sailed..

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Mecca 02-27-2018 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13441626)
LMAO, here we go with this again.

Take a seat dude, that ship has sailed..

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It's a racist comment period, if you don't think it is than that's on you.

GloryDayz 02-27-2018 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13441605)
Thanks for the link.

My only comments are that: (1) it is still KC leaking all the info so you have to take it with a grain of salt, (2) Peters and Kelce should have been disciplined before things got to the point they did, (3) interesting that they say Peters practiced hard. Maybe he wasn't a huge headache M-G, and (4) the kneeling/sitting played a role.

I think parts of everything played into the decision. As it should.

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Red Dawg 02-27-2018 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13441569)
Yes it is, you are using the term "hood rat" instead of another one same way people use thug. That is basically casual racism because you change the term doesn't mean you change what it implies.

You are implying not me. Plenty of white thugs out there. Mexican thugs as well. You are generalizing I mean a black guy, not me. Remember House of Pain? They were Irish thugs.

Marcellus 02-27-2018 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13441091)
That's a liberal use of that number. There were only 2 who actually negotiated for Alex Smith. The point is just because only 2 teams tried to get him, doesn't mean there weren't more teams interested. I don't think it's a coincidence that Peters ended up in California and in the NFC.

Right thats why its been widely reported over and over again that 2 teams were interested in Peters and 8 teams were interested in Smith.

But hey just go with what YOU believe.

PutQuinnIn 02-27-2018 09:06 AM

Great move by the Rams, not giving up much for a HOF shutdown corner. Wade Phillips has won a Super Bowl with Talib and the Rams i'm sure feel Phillips can relate to Peters better than Old Man Sutton.

Marcellus 02-27-2018 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PutQuinnIn (Post 13441658)
Great move by the Rams, not giving up much for a HOF shutdown corner. Wade Phillips has won a Super Bowl with Talib and the Rams i'm sure feel Phillips can relate to Peters better than Old Man Sutton.

Peters mental weakness and instability pretty much assures he will never ever reach his full potential.

Mecca 02-27-2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13441667)
Peters mental weakness and instability pretty much assures he will never ever reach his full potential.

He has a HOF trajectory as it stands today, what the hell else do you want?

Sassy Squatch 02-27-2018 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13441673)
He has a HOF trajectory as it stands today, what the hell else do you want?

For him to not quit on his team when times get tough would be a nice start.

Messier 02-27-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PutQuinnIn (Post 13441658)
Great move by the Rams, not giving up much for a HOF shutdown corner. Wade Phillips has won a Super Bowl with Talib and the Rams i'm sure feel Phillips can relate to Peters better than Old Man Sutton.

Is Phillips younger than Sutton?

notorious 02-27-2018 09:14 AM

Phillips will harness that negative energy towards his scheme instead of wasting it like Sutton.

I look for this to be the best payoff trade in the NFL for 2 years until he gets paid. Phillips will probably retire, and the wheels will come off for Peters.

Too bad we didn't use him for those 2 years. Sutton can get fisted by an elephant afflicted with gigantism.

Messier 02-27-2018 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13441685)
Phillips will harness that negative energy towards his scheme instead of wasting it like Sutton.

I look for this to be the best payoff trade in the NFL for 2 years until he gets paid. Phillips will probably retire, and the wheels will come off for Peters.

Too bad we didn't use him for those 2 years. Sutton can get fisted by an elephant afflicted with gigantism.

I love how, if Peters and Sutton butted heads it's Suttons fault and he should go. Sutton probably should've gone but not because Peters isn't coachable. He's had several coaches and so far is batting .000. Why will Phillips reach him?

Marcellus 02-27-2018 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13441673)
He has a HOF trajectory as it stands today, what the hell else do you want?

His trajectory took a rather large dip last season. About the same time his antics took a huge upswing.

notorious 02-27-2018 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 13441709)
I love how, if Peters and Sutton butted heads it's Suttons fault and he should go. Sutton probably should've gone but not because Peters isn't coachable. He's had several coaches and so far is batting .000. Why will Phillips reach him?

Phillips has kicked ass and taken names for decades. His scheme is aggressive, the kind of defense that players love. His success has earned him a ton of respect. What the **** has Sutton done?


No doubt that Peters is a POS, but when that is harnessed it can be deadly.

Marcellus 02-27-2018 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13441718)
Phillips has kicked ass and taken names for decades. His scheme is aggressive, the kind of defense that players love. His success has earned him a ton of respect. What the **** has Sutton done?


No doubt that Peters is a POS, but when that is harnessed it can be deadly.

Sutton actually fielded a top 10 defense at least 3 of his years here. People forget the defense wasn't the issue most of the time he has been here.

Messier 02-27-2018 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13441718)
Phillips has kicked ass and taken names for decades. His scheme is aggressive, the kind of defense that players love. His success has earned him a ton of respect. What the **** has Sutton done?


No doubt that Peters is a POS, but when that is harnessed it can be deadly.

Yes, he kicks ass. But why will he change Peters? I'm betting Peters stays the same.

chiefzilla1501 02-27-2018 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13441646)
Right thats why its been widely reported over and over again that 2 teams were interested in Peters and 8 teams were interested in Smith.

But hey just go with what YOU believe.

The only two California nfc teams were the only two teams interested, and they're smack dab next to Oakland. What an incredible coincidence.

FringeNC 02-27-2018 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13441726)
Sutton actually fielded a top 10 defense at least 3 of his years here. People forget the defense wasn't the issue most of the time he has been here.

Until this year, the regular season D had been good under Sutton, but essentially can't force a punt in the post-season (other than against Houston).

I went back and looked at the stats -- top 6 in yards per play 2014 and 2015. Still, the playoff collapses are way too much for me.

The Franchise 02-27-2018 09:40 AM

Peters owns as much of this shit sandwich as anyone involved.

Do I want him gone? No.
Do I understand why he’s gone? Yes.

I’m ****ing over it.

staylor26 02-27-2018 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13441738)
The only two California nfc teams were the only two teams interested, and they're smack dab next to Oakland. What an incredible coincidence.

:facepalm:

It’s not a coincidence. It just doesn’t mean what YOU think it means.

Sassy Squatch 02-27-2018 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13441744)
Peters owns as much of this shit sandwich as anyone involved.

Do I want him gone? No.
Do I understand why he’s gone? Yes.

I’m ****ing over it.

Almost exactly where I'm at.

notorious 02-27-2018 09:44 AM

Pest is right.

carcosa 02-27-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimkcchief88 (Post 13441581)
Aw cmon nobody on CP is racist:)

lol

chiefzilla1501 02-27-2018 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13441746)
:facepalm:

It’s not a coincidence. It just doesn’t mean what YOU think it means.

You don't think there were a number of teams that backed out primarily because they knew he'd never sign a long term deal? No team is going to give a quality picks for a 1-2 year rental who comes with baggage. Undoubtedly some teams didn't want to take the risk on the attitude. But there are plenty of other reasons to back out of the market. It's more than possible that the Chiefs gave peters some leverage to decide where he wanted to go.

cooper barrett 02-27-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimkcchief88 (Post 13441581)
Aw cmon nobody on CP is racist:)







In the last 4 days they had to put a "power" behind the applicable number.

Discuss Thrower 02-27-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13441744)
Peters owns as much of this shit sandwich as anyone involved.

Do I want him gone? No.
Do I understand why he’s gone? Yes.

I’m ****ing over it.

They got a year's advance on a compensation pick for a dude that wasn't going to willingly sign with the team barring some ginormous payday by the Hunt family.

Not ideal that they put themselves into this position and it defintely hampered getting the best possible reward in a trade, but beyond that there's not a lot that can be done now.

The Franchise 02-27-2018 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13441791)
They got a year's advance on a compensation pick for a dude that wasn't going to willingly sign with the team barring some ginormous payday by the Hunt family.

Not ideal that they put themselves into this position and it defintely hampered getting the best possible reward in a trade, but beyond that there's not a lot that can be done now.

Pretty much where I'm at.

And I'm sure there were a lot of teams that didn't want to trade for him because they knew that he wouldn't sign with him after the two years.

The Franchise 02-27-2018 10:35 AM

Even Walter from Walterfootball.com, who has historically hated on the Chiefs in the past, doesn't thing it's a horrible trade for us.

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Rams acquire CB Marcus Peters, 2018 6th-rounder from Chiefs for 2018 4th-rounder, 2019 2nd-rounder
We finally have the details of the Marcus Peters trade. The Chiefs will be getting back a fourth-round pick this April and a 2019 second-round choice. They'll also be surrendering a sixth-rounder this year in addition to Peters.

I wrote that the Chiefs were likely getting back a second-day selection of some sort, but I thought it would be this year. I'm not sure why they have to wait until 2019 to get it. Peters is a terrific cornerback, and Kansas City should've been able to obtain more for him. However, teams were aware that the Chiefs were frustrated with Peters, so that killed his value. As a result, this is all Kansas City was able to obtain for him.

The Rams obviously won this swap. Peters will provide a great boost for their secondary, which will lose Trumaine Johnson to free agency. Giving up a second-round pick in 2019 is significant, but definitely worth it. They also have to move down two rounds this April, but that's not a big deal. The Chiefs, meanwhile, look bad, but they didn't want Peters around, and they acquired two talented corners (Kendall Fuller, David Amerson) to compensate for his loss, so I think they'll be fine. I just wish they could've gotten a bit more. Still, I don't think this trade is as bad as people are making it out to be. I still consider the Chiefs one of the favorites to reach the Super Bowl out of the AFC.

Grade for Rams - A-
Grade for Chiefs - C+

Read more at http://www.walterfootball.com/nfltra...IZoMq6BM0D2.99

DaneMcCloud 02-27-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13441832)
Even Walter from Walterfootball.com, who has historically hated on the Chiefs in the past, doesn't thing it's a horrible trade for us.

Ultimately, the trade will be judged by whether or not Veach is able to acquire significant help from the 2018 4th rounder and the 2019 2nd rounder.

If he's able to grab a couple of key players or use one of those picks to acquire a key player, it'll be judged favorably.

If it results in a Javier Arenas type player, it'll be judged as a failure.

Time will tell.

raybec 4 02-27-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13441926)
Ultimately, the trade will be judged by whether or not Veach is able to acquire significant help from the 2018 4th rounder and the 2019 2nd rounder.

If he's able to grab a couple of key players or use one of those picks to acquire a key player, it'll be judged favorably.

If it results in a Javier Arenas type player, it'll be judged as a failure.

Time will tell.

Don't you DARE hate on Javier Arenas!!

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 02-27-2018 12:32 PM

Did we win every game that Peters played in? No we didn't. The best shutdown corner can only cover half the field at best. What did teams do when they played the Chiefs? They threw away from Peters. I'd much rather have a budding superstar like Mahomes than a ticking time bomb like Peters. It sucks that we had to let a talented player like Peters go but sometimes you have to face reality and do what's best for the whole team. Let's see what they do in free agency and the draft and then reevaluate our status going into the upcoming season.

dls6501 02-27-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN (Post 13442057)
Did we win every game that Peters played in? No we didn't. The best shutdown corner can only cover half the field at best. What did teams do when they played the Chiefs? They threw away from Peters. I'd much rather have a budding superstar like Mahomes than a ticking time bomb like Peters. It sucks that we had to let a talented player like Peters go but sometimes you have to face reality and do what's best for the whole team. Let's see what they do in free agency and the draft and then reevaluate our status going into the upcoming season.

Please explain why it needs to be one or the other. Thx.

rabblerouser 02-27-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 13442217)
Please explain why it needs to be one or the other. Thx.

As soon as Peters attacks and chokes Wade Phillips, you'll find out...

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-27-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 13442217)
Please explain why it needs to be one or the other. Thx.

Peters was never sticking around unless it was a huge payday... You can't pay Mahommes in 3 years with a huge payday being given to someone that isn't a good leader on your team.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-27-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13441744)
Peters owns as much of this shit sandwich as anyone involved.

Do I want him gone? No.
Do I understand why he’s gone? Yes.

I’m ****ing over it.

Only way to be if one is going to look at this rationally.

I hate losing the player, but I can also recognize that’s it’s probably the right move for both parties.

GloryDayz 02-27-2018 03:39 PM

I'm still trying to find a way to be upset, but I can't. His talent might be missed, his antics won't be.

I hope he decides to reflect and fix the antics part of life. If he does, he'll be fine.

I hope the Chiefs realize that they can't suck after this, and old man Sutton better overachieve, or they're screwed.

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Mother****erJones 02-27-2018 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13441832)
Even Walter from Walterfootball.com, who has historically hated on the Chiefs in the past, doesn't thing it's a horrible trade for us.

I read that last night and was stunned.


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