It's going to be ****ing nice watching a DE that doesn't give up 80% of the time. This kid is going to go nonstop for as long as his body allows him to. And then he'll just keep going.

Remember when rookie hold-outs was a thing?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas City reached agreement with first-round pick George Karlaftis - the No. 30 overall selection - on a four-year, fully-guaranteed contract, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1522616422911860737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is where some may get upset about it, but he's basically about as physically maxed from a "bulk him up" standpoint as you're gonna get while keeping his athleticism what it is as you want.

He's a plug and play guy. He'll learn some things and physically mature a litte in the next few years (he's only 21) and be a good solid player.

People will see "1st round pick" and want him to be Tj Watt, when he's a 6-8 sack per year SDE playing solid run d.

It's fine to be a good player. Not everyone has to be an elite player.

He's a piece of what we needed to fix this defensive line. Stars and scrubs work out great if your stars continually perform at their level. When those stars ****ing suck....your entire line ****ing sucks.

The guy may not have long arms but his hands are really ****ing powerful and he knows how to use them to control leverage.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Purdue EDGE George Karlaftis (#5) brings the goods when it comes to his power rushes. <br><br>He starts the rep with a great first step into his arc, he then gets great placement with his hands. He combines the speed and natural power to run this tackle back into his QB. Great rush. <a href="https://t.co/U8OIySfHcg">pic.twitter.com/U8OIySfHcg</a></p>&mdash; Nick Price (@PriceCheck3) <a href="https://twitter.com/PriceCheck3/status/1467993410896285699?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He’s quicker than you’d think.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Power, leverage, and heavy hands make George Karlaftis a scary pass rusher. Was all over the QB when Purdue played Iowa and came away with a sack here thanks to a swipe-rip combo. <a href="https://t.co/ktArE7fcWJ">pic.twitter.com/ktArE7fcWJ</a></p>&mdash; Bobby Football (@Rob__Paul) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rob__Paul/status/1492158192788328454?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

More nice handwork and a spin move!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">George Karlaftis III with the spin move. If you beat the hands, you beat the man! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PassRush?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PassRush</a><a href="https://twitter.com/TheGK3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheGK3</a> earned Freshman All-American honors last season for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoilerUp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BoilerUp</a> <a href="https://t.co/WchY8nls3a">pic.twitter.com/WchY8nls3a</a></p>&mdash; DLineVids (@dlinevids1) <a href="https://twitter.com/dlinevids1/status/1254473944519737345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The 2nd video is where the lack of bend comes into play a bit. NFL QB likely steps up there.

Again, he's fine. Good player, great pick at 30.

Yeah....steps up and runs right into Chris Jones as he pushes the OG into his face.

Pretty much.

It lines up to perfectly for them to take a swing at a big DE free agent or trade or something next year to pair with what they got in this guy.

Not sure there is going to be a FA next year unless someone good gets cut. It's more than likely trade or through the draft.

You know me, but I wish they could make a trade for one this year and complete the process.

Your only hope would be Burns or Allen and I don't see why either of those teams make those trades.

Sweat would be interesting but I just noticed that he's 28. I didn't realize he was that old.

I love Burns. I think he'd be absolutely ideal at RDE with Karlaftis at LDE

Sure....but why would the Panthers trade him for what essentially would be a low first round pick?

The only logical reason would be needing ammo to get the QB you want in the 2023 draft but I still don't see them doing that.

good lord no. that's how we ****ing got into this mess.

Stop trading first round picks for players who need $25M a year in a new contract. Jeez, you'd think people would have learned by now.

Brett Veach sure as **** did.

You want to be the one DEALING the player, not acquiring him.

Marcus Davenport!!!

Well, he did it again last year, so I'm not sure the lesson took.

If you want a premier edge guy, that's how they're gonna have to get one. Unless free agency turns up something.

Actually, scratch that.

If the Bears would send us Robert Quinn that would be perfect.

Was about to make that same comment.

One thing you notice even when he's strafing down for the run is that he has to be clean to make his turn. It's because his hips are a little stiff. So on that pass rush clip you see that he can't start turning to the QB until he gets his upper body squared up to the passer.

He has to turn and run and that's gonna cost him a step. So he'll probably always be a guy who's sack numbers don't match his pass rush win rates. Because even after he 'wins' it takes another half step for him to finish the rush and that's often all a QB needs.

Now again, where you can help with that is a strong interior rush (which we have) that he forces the QB to step into. OR a dynamic speed threat on the opposite side of him that forces deeper sets that he can take advantage of by shaking off the block to the inside.

I think most of us are on the same page here. This is just going to be a good football player and a strong complementary talent out there. I think we're still one or two steps away from getting the best out of him that we can, though.

$12.8 million cap hit this year. Gonna need to move money around to make it happen.

But yeah, he'd be a really nice fit. I just don't think you can give up too much for him given his age and salary requirements over this year and next. I'm talking no more than a day 3 pick.

EDIT: Would you believe Quinn now has 2 seasons of 18+ sacks on his resume? Maybe 2-3 guys in league history have done that? Man, when he's been good, he's been REALLY good.

Depends if Chicago wants to move him or not. THey should, but with dealing Mack I'm guessing they won't.

Man, he'd be such a nice fit though. Add him and Ingram (if you could make the money work) and you'd be cooking pretty nice up front.

Strahan, Watt, Gastineau, White, DeMarcus Ware and Quinn.

So 6 guys in league history. Pretty remarkable company to keep.

Really like the Trey Hendrickson comp. Trey is more athletic (other than lateral agility) than Karlaftis but he was also pretty weak. He took a few years to develop.

Hoping George can be an impact player this year. Joe Cullen could really help him.

I think they'd like to give Trevis Gipson a free hand to see what he can do out there, but I also think moving Mack opens that spot up pretty well for them.

They grabbed Muhammed out of Indy when Eberflus came over so he may want to give 'his' guy more playing time and that could convince them that Quinn is expendable. But they don't have a ton behind him. Attaouchu (who may well be cut and could also be a nice fit here) and Mario Edwards. They drafted Dominique Robertson but surely he's just a developmental depth piece for right now.

I mean they COULD move Quinn and have a Muhammed/Attaochu/Edwards rotation on the other side of Gipson. But if Gipson isn't who they hoped he would be, they could be in real trouble at that point.

I would think Attaouchu is the most likely candidate to be on the move.

I exchanged some messages with a Bears reporter I trust, who is pretty plugged in. He doesn't think they move Quinn before the season. Will try to trade him in-season when a team is motivated to pay a little more for the "missing piece."

But yeah, I would like that fit a lot.

That pass a sniff test to you?

When have teams shown any eagerness to trade for an in-season player who wasn't around during training camp, isn't familiar with the scheme, could interrupt chemistry on the fly?

Obviously Ingram was mid-season but the Chiefs didn't give up anything of note to bring him in and his cap number was deminimis.

It just seems unlikely that his value would go up. And frankly there's the injury risk AND the fact that they're flipping to a 4-3 this year and he simply may not be as good there (obviously if we acquired him we hope he would be, but he's not duplicating what he did last season either way).

Seems like that's organizational smoke to me. If they're willing to deal him, I think they recognize that they're unlikely to get any more for him in-season than they would now. And with less risk involved in dealing him sooner.

I mean I don't doubt that's what the Bears may be putting out there - but it just doesn't make sense to me. This isn't MLB - teams don't go crazy at the deadline.

And Ingram was someone who they brought in for a visit….so they already knew how he’d fit and had a chance to talk to him.

I could see a Quinn trade before training camp and after an OBJ extension.

Signed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas City reached agreement with first-round pick George Karlaftis - the No. 30 overall selection - on a four-year, fully-guaranteed contract, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1522616422911860737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

My thoughts exactly.

The deadline for extensions on Franchise players comes sometime in July, IIRC. So it'll get done by then or not at all. And if/when that gets knocked out, that's when I could see us focusing some attention on a deal for Quinn.

I makes sooooooo much sense. It makes enough sense, in fact, that I almost wonder if Veach doesn't have a deal set up in principle with Poles. I just cannot understand how little attention has gone to the DL that Veach insisted was a 'priority' going into the offseason.

1 guy. We've added 1 guy. Well I guess 2 if you count Stallworth. But when has Veach ever honed in on a position group and then not AGGRESSIVELY attacked it?

This just isn't like him at all. He has another card to play and a Quinn trade on the heels of clearing cap space through an OBJ long-term deal makes too much sense to not get done.

It might be. But the Super Bowl winners just did exactly what we're talking about with Von Miller. They gave a lot for him. I could understand an organization trying to ape that approach. Especially with an established vet like Quinn who conceivably would fit in quickly.

Yep and I honestly think it could have happened during the draft if Karlaftis didn’t fall to them.

And if the OBJ deal gets done…then I’m all for sending a pick for Quinn to play opposite of Karlaftis.

Chiefs don't need an OBJ extension. They could sign anyone by restructuring Mahomes (up to $21 million). With $14m in cap room now, they could create $39m in cap room WITHOUT an OBJ extension.

Chiefs can pounce on ANY post draft opportunity more than any team in the league. Their $14.3 in cap room is currently 3rd in the NFL. A Mahomes restructure plus an OBJ extension would let them go to town.

Wow, fully guaranteed. You don't hear that very often.

Last 2 drafts the top 24 picks were fully guaranteed

A big pool and stock options in Oikos or Chaboni must've been included

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs first round pick George Karlaftis didn&#39;t know that Kansas City was the BBQ capital of the world. He knows now.<br>&quot;This is my type of place. It was meant to be.&quot; -<a href="https://twitter.com/TheGK3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheGK3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/KCTV5?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KCTV5</a> <a href="https://t.co/8muZT6ARfh">pic.twitter.com/8muZT6ARfh</a></p>&mdash; Jared Koller (@JaredKCTV5) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaredKCTV5/status/1522696592595329026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

George reminds me of the Water Boy movie.

Somebody embed please!

https://youtu.be/2ukdxO0KFic

:thumb:

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Guy is 260+ lbs and has very little fat on him. He’s ****ing rocked up.

Kinnard's blocking him.

You mean grabbing fist full of jersey yeah he's blocking him.

I'm mentioning who also is in the pic.

So you don't want Kinnard to do well? Damn, I may not like the Karlaftis pick, but KC selected him. Thus, I want George to prove me wrong.

No I absolutely want Kinnard to succeed I was being a smart ass. It's better to be a smart ass than a dumb ass I always say. Also was kinda pointing out that means if Kinnard struggles with Karlaftis that's great and good for both them going at it against each other and that is just one picture doesn't tell all of mini camp how many reps they all had against each other and I assume they both gave each other a run for their money.

Just watching that little cut up on Karlaftis shows several different pass rush moves. This kid should be a good one.

For future reference, that's not a hold. Everyone always gets pissed at those. It's inside the framework.

Bosa brothers dominated right away and their hands/technique was a huge part of it.

Working with Mahomes trainer huh? Looks like Patrick is selling his guy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGK3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheGK3</a> , not doing CrossFit, on memorial day. <a href="https://t.co/BJqKO3lNS5">pic.twitter.com/BJqKO3lNS5</a></p>&mdash; Bobby Stroupe (@bobbystroupe) <a href="https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe/status/1531383932620529665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Karlaftis should get ahold of Hali & The Gracie Family and learn Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

I believe he already trains MMA going back to college.

Oh, the trainer posted it?

Yeah, seems right. The trainer posted it. Not the player.

If you were a player and wanted to brag about all the work you were doing, you'd probably post it on the internet to let people know.

Know any players who do that? I hope none of them are QBs, because I'd be really worried if I were a fan of that team.

Big difference training with wannabe tough guys in comparison to world class Martial Artists

Oh so you know who he was training with?

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I know the type, and there are a metric ****ton of " combat karate" guys. I know a few of them

So you don’t, and you’re just making baseless assumptions…

LOL, whining again

Do you know?

I’m not the one pretending to know.

Nobody is whining, you’re just deflecting from the truth.

He trains with Steven Seagal. His hair is even growing back now.

LOL, yep whining.

Jesus, True Fan it up

In what universe does this qualify as “True Fan” shit?

Let see you are debating that Karlaftis is getting World Class training from a bunch of guys in Pennsylvania while the Gracie's were Octagon Champions

Never said that. Your reading comprehension is consistently terrible.

Alex Smith just wins

Some of you guys are ****ing weird.

Never was an Alex Smith ballwasher.

Was always in the “draft a QB” camp.

Nice try though.

All I'm saying he should upgrade his training with Tamba and the Gracie family and then here comes STaylor " well you don't know how good". Inherently saying his MMA training is on par with World Class Martial artists. Then he starts acting like a chick or a True Fan.

Flat out lies.

You said he’s training with “fake tough guys”.

You have no clue who he’s training with, and neither do I.

LOL, as I said "you don't know" when I was comparing them to the Gracie's

There’s a huge gap in between world class trainers and “fake tough guys”.

Nuance. Try it.

Nuance in comparing them to the Gracie Family

Who did that?

God damn you’re reeruned.

That's been the primary argument you attacking me, and you splitting hairs when I said wannabe

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LMAO

Just take the L here. Literally zero people here GAF about his actual martial arts training. Zero.

What's the point in even starting this idiotic argument?

nlm that's good ROFL (no snide intent)

I'm just saying upgrade the training, Staylor made a big deal out of it

Has he considered kempo with The Perfect Weapon Jeff Speakman

Speakman is kind of an asshole when you talk to him.

lol at me being so used to spelling kenpom and still spelling kenpo with an M

This is a solid cripple slap-feat.