Seriously. Wtf. I counted 3 fouls and one giveaway.

That match was like watching a foreigners tooth decay but I’ll tune in again on Tuesday to watch my favorite national soccer team the USMNT.

I think you’d like it if you gave it a chance. 45 minutes of pure action.

If you follow international leagues….you’ve for promotion/relegation. Basically, if the Royals suck, they get sent to triple A. If Omaha wins it, they go to MLB.


It’s super fun to follow and watch.

Even 0-0 games can be exciting. England has some do the best strikers in the world and our midfielders were just better athletes. Our speed on the edge was more than England could handle, but their strong center backs made up for that.

It’s like a fun chess match, but with humans. I think you’d like it, PB, if you watched it.

Like most sports, the more you understand the more you feel tension. Especially when you have rooting interest. In football 2nd down is more interesting to an educated fan because you don't want 3rd and long. A play on the 40 is important because field goal range is approaching etc. When you have a rooting interest everything is more important. When 1 goal can be all it takes every chance is nerve-racking, even if the chance is low that a result comes of it. It's chess, it's more a book than a movie.

There is much more to this sport than shots on goal. Focusing on that is missing the bigger picture. If you don't like it whatever that's your choice. I certainly understand that it's not for everyone.

He is correct. Life is short. We should watch the sports we enjoy, not the ones that he approves for us. I approve of his advice, just not in the way he intended.

Moore was bad today. At least go with Yedlin if you are taking him out. I suppose it was to protect him from his yellow card? Did he have one? I'm not a fan of GB either. His favoring of guys like Moore and Morris is baffling.

Well said. But so many Americans (I’m an American) give up on it becasue the thought of 0-0. I get that. We are Americans. We understand winners and losers. I totally get not being ok with a tie. That’s completely fair. But there’s wayyyyyy more to it than wins and losses and ties.

There’s points and games in hand and relegation and promotion and so on and so forth. NFL is my favorite sport…nothing else in the world is better, but **** soccer is so compelling given the implications I stated earlier. It’s really a lot of fun.

I always warch the semis and finals of a WC or euro

These shit games early are not bearable tho

Many people that don’t get or enjoy soccer fail to appreciate the skill involved. You watch it, and it looks kind of easy and pedestrian, and therefore boring. It’s not. Try going out and doing even basics yourself - shooting, shot placement, one touch passing, bringing a long pass down in front of you without it bouncing 15 yards away. It’s all VERY hard to do well. Every other sport requires hand-eye coordination, which is just more natural. Foot-eye coordination is a different beast.

I grew up playing football and now love both sports. But I didn’t appreciate the teamwork and fluid beauty of a well executed soccer game (regardless of score), until I played in adult leagues and tried it myself. Humbling.

I don’t think Dest or yedlin had a card.

Conspiracy theory: both matches GB made a baffling change for an MLS player. Everyone in the world knows we have better players either in the bench or on the pitch. But he dubs in an MLS player. Gsme 1: morris. The 2: moore.

I don’t disparage either player. Their number was called and they played. I disparage GB.

Totally fair. I got involved becasue I wake up at 5 am every morning. Premier league was on. I got to “know” the players and promotion relegation. Now Saturday mornings at 5 with my kids are some of the best times I have with my family. Before we have to leave for soccer or volleyball or softball or <insert sport>.

That’s where you lose people. Casual fans don’t give shit about skill. But if you lose a match and get sent down a level, that’s where American fans get involved.

**** yes the skill is off the charts. That comes later.

Soccer is more rigged than football, if that makes it more enjoyable for you.

Frankly I’ve found the euro endings way more happy. As Robert Kraft might say

I laughed lol

45 minutes of constant movement.

I’d it’s rigged that ref has way more opportunities than soccer

Proven in Italy actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calciopoli

2002 euro and 06 WC finals weee the high pt of soccer

Dest had a yellow I just checked. But bring on yedlin. Both moore and Morris are guys that worked their way back onto the roster with hard work and I think Greg has a bias towards them. I just can't hear an argument that those are the best choices. I think he's making those choices with his heart and not his head

And respect for that. Agreed.

But this is the World Cup., not CONCACAF

Oh I'm right there with you. It's his job to think with his head. I did not like either of those decisions.

(Not straw man) what’s your thought then on the moore change. Dest wasn’t happy it seemed being subbed off. I like Dest a lot. He’s not good defensively but he’s a great option on the right

I didn't like it at all. Dest was having a very good game imo. Bring on Yedlin if you are worried about the yellow card. I would like to see more of gio and Aaronson but they play in positions of strength for us. I really like their energy. I don't really watch club soccer so I haven't seen much of Ferreira or Vickers but I liked Ferreira from what I saw. I guess it was weak competition though. What are everyone's thoughts on them?

At the end of the day all of the young strikers on this team have had a few chances during qualifying to take hold of the job and nobody did.

Facts. Imagine if us Americans treated soccer playoffs the way we treat the superbowl

Tyler is covering up Zimmerman’s flaws and I’ll say it again, he’s the only MLS player on this roster whose on the starting 11 and it’s not a good thing. I’ve said it time and time again, and now our commentators are saying the same shit. For the 2026 cup he needs to be replaced.

Get out of my head!!! Lol

Idk who vickers id (Sargent maybe thanks to Siri????) but yes I agree


Why do we see this but berhalter doesn’t?

I brought that up earlier too. I agree with others the team is mostly well built but you still have head scratchers like this that just make it so hard to ignore. There isn’t a good explanation for why aaronson and Reyna are being treated like Ronald jones.

I agree with this too. Tyler might be one of the best 6’s in the world. He’s so good. If there’s ever a “sweeper midfielder” which there isn’t, Tyler Adams is it. He quietly saved 2 goals tonight.

Better than Pogba IMHO.

I understand that set pieces, break always, through balls, in and outs fly over your head, because again, you don’t understand the game.

Oh and it’s ok to love and rooot for mahomes and the chiefs while also rooting for our country to beat all these bitch ass European teams who talk shit about us for 4 years straight between every World Cup.

America #1 sweetheart

Shut up you woke cupcake

Lol at Ronald jones

Make it make sense. Reyna makes plays for Borussia Dortmund. A too club.

He can’t get clock because: Jordan morris??

I don’t hate on Jordan morris. But is he REALLY the best option over an attacking midfielder in Germany who gets clock at 19 years old??? The **** outta here

The world is so lucky that most Americans don't care about soccer and that it is our 4th or 5th most popular sport. If soccer was number 1 here, then we'd be as dominant as our men's basketball team in internal play. 16 golds, 1 silver, and 2 bronze in 19 appearances.

Look at our USWNT as well. They are the most successful women's national team in the world. Won the 1st world cup in 91, then again in 95, 2015, 2019. Their first loss was in the 1995 in the semifinal and got 3rd that year. They were third in 2003 and 2007 and 2nd in 2011. They have a record of 40 wins 4 losses and 6 draws. They've scored 138 goals and have only allowed 38.

So yeah if we didn't have the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL. Hell just take out one of the NFL or MLB and we would kick the world's ass in soccer as well.

Imagine if Lebron was our goalie.

Could you imagine the domination?

The Lebron today or from years past?

https://i.postimg.cc/bJVLnLyf/Screen...125-215740.png

USA USA

Weren’t you the ones playing for the tie and happy with the results?

Few to none of our fans are happy with the draw or our performance.

It’s the next day and England still hasn’t beaten the USA in a soccer match that mattered. God, I’d kill myself if I lived there.

Do you think it makes it harder for the other team when one team is playing for a draw? The US result is mostly due to your team being a bunch of ****s and being afraid to lose to them.

PM me bruv. I've got a spare room in my house for you to do God's work in.

Seriously this is like Eastern Michigan losing to Alabama on a last second FG and Alabama celebrating and mocking Eastern Michigan like they just won the national championship. Low grade trolling on your part……..mate.

Uhhh…US had more shots on goal, corners, and all other offensive statistical categories.

So now I believe if Poland beats Argentina and Mexico beats Saudi Arabia, Mexico will be in regardless of what they do against Argentina.

Assuming Mexico doesn't beat Argentina but does beat Saudi Arabia, it's very possible a tie break will determine who moves on between Mexico and Poland/Argentina.

Poland might not be laughing about that last chance for a 3rd goal in 4 days time.

That's actually one of the reasons I DONT like soccer. I prefer sports (generally like bball or football) where if you are just the best athlete out there you are gonna be one of the best. Think Giannis, LeBron, Ja Morant, Lamar Jackson, Aaron Donald. Freaks of nature. Never been a fan of the Bradys, Jokics, Bully Butlers etc, From what I can gather offside penalties, angles, amt of guys allowed on field and the size of the goal really mitigate the need to be really athletic. Of course being athletic always helps, but the best guys arent these amazing athletes. They are crafty, good strikers, play well in tight spaces to get weird headers and goals that way.

There are different categories when it come to being athletic, physical gifted ( fast/strong/can jump etc) and then there is the technique coordination aspect to being athletic then you need the sports IQ , I always preferred guys with a the last two but in rare cases you get one with all three and you end up with a guy like Jordan/Mahomes/McDavid /Ronaldo but I much preferred watching Steve Nash over Shaq or Gretzky over Lindros Mahomes over Jackson/Allen

Poor analogy mate. Thing is mate we didnt lose and yet people here are acting like we did, mate. And it puts you in a pretty bad place heading into the final game and we're through already, mate. That's what's the pisstake is about mate.

Speak english. I have no clue what you just said. None.

It’s gonna be hilarious when Gareth Bale drops 4 on England in a rout and the US shithouses Iran, with the US and Wales advancing.

No, you don’t get it.

The vast majority here don’t care about soccer enough for it to really matter if we advance to the next stage.

But we very much understand how much you and your countrymen have lives that revolve around soccer. So when we play your national team to a draw (again), we know you’re despondent and searching for meaning in life and we enjoy that disappointment.

That’s the vibe you’re getting here.

Drawing a shit US team IS losing

It be like the Chiefs tieing the Rams playing a 3rd stringer Sunday and being like phew...cool we didn't lose!

“People here are acting” where the **** are you from. With all this “mate” talk and “everybody here” you must be implying you’re from England, and if that’s the case why the hell out of 32 football teams message boards would you join this one to talk soccer when there are hundreds of other places to talk soccer where you could have legit discussions?

Then again you’d think after that England usa game you’d be a bit more humbled about your squad and the American team but instead you’ve taken your douche bag level up a notch, so maybe I already have my answer.

I LOL at the massive insecurity the Soccer haters have. Soccer is just fine in america (and around the world) regardless of the popularity of the NFL.

And a bit of a news flash: It IS possible to enjoy multiple sports, and appreciate the various nuances that each possesses.

and if we're going to talk about things we hate about various sports, the NFL has quite a few blemishes that (after entering one game day thread) is very obvious to most people.

live and let live people.

JFC......i'm old enough to remember wide world of sports and no ESPN.......and watching bowling on saturday or sunday mornings.......maybe some downhill skiing.....battle of the network stars!

England soccer...I believe we will draw

Nah soccer sucks, but drawing with the Limeys is cool as ****

Most real American fans are pretty pissed about the outcome as well. We had the better opportunities and controlled the midfield all game. It’s very disappointing to not come away with the win in a match you pretty much controlled for the last 60-70 minutes of the match. Would have been great to give Wales a chance to knock you out, but in true American fashion we just couldn’t finish any of our opportunities. We didn’t even play our best and still controlled the flow of the game. England players are much slower than the Americans. I mean Harry Kane got chased down by an MLS CB. It was hilarious that Southgate subbed Rashford in for Saka. When he took your only 2 stars out in Jude and Saka I knew we at least had a point. Very rare to see a coach not be able to out-coach Berhalter. There is a reason you all are still the joke of Europe. #theyrecominghome

Go IRAN!


Golf buddy told me yesterday our woke liberal F*****ts came out last summer in favor of gun control, for reasons that obv don’t relate to soccer. They’re such an easy squad to hate

I love how progressive you are becoming! The old PB would never have supported the women’s rights protests by the players and their fans. Love to see you fully embracing the voice and the platform that they are using. You are finally sounding like an adult. I definitely won’t be heartbroken if Iran gets past us either with everything they’ve had to deal with lately.

I’ll be honest, I’ll be very sad/upset if we don’t win vs Iran but to me, if we can’t beat Iran who lost 6-2 to England and then barely beat wales playing a man up, then we don’t deserve to advance.

True.

Our soccer players are following in the steps of the women's team. Focus on soccer and maybe they beat Wales.

If we get the US team in the England and 1st half of the Wales matches, we win.

Which group do we play if we advance?

Considering I'm like one of 5 people here who like hockey, I totally get not coming into other sport threads and taking a dump.

And not to do so, I just don't get how a sport can go from playing soccer, where you may only have a few legitimate scoring chances per team over 90+ minutes... to penalty kicks, which have whatever 80%+ success rate. It would be like finishing an NFL game with extra points, and not even the current EP yardage but from the 2. Or if Mahomes just had to play catch with Kelce.

And then you have offsides the entire length of the field in a sport that severely lacks scoring opportunities to begin with (and again, will go to the absurdly successful PKs before opening up the game a tiny bit). And I know Americans trying to change soccer is probably an annoyance, too, heh.

I did get into the World Cup a bit several years ago though, just haven't caught any games this year.... and it's not 50% commercials, which is nice!

Offsides doesn’t come into effect in your own half but I wish they would put another line maybe a quarter of the field were it doesn’t, like taking away the two line pass in hockey to help scoring but that might just make team park the bus more than who knows.

I'm trying. I watched 90% of the England game. I played it when I was 7 and 8 but quickly quit since I liked basketball much much more. Maybe them actually winning will be helpful. Ill admit, watching women sports anything just doesn't do it for me.

Danes need a win to advance, right?

Good Grief. Any sports game that ends at 0-0 HAS to be riveting.

If it was Chiefs vs the Raiders and the score was 0-0, was it a good game?

Would you want to re-watch it and analyze it. I am sure the sports media would be drooling over such a game.

As an American, I guess I am spoiled as to what is called sports entertainment. I can see the rest of the world going "what a great game that was, hey, mate, lets go watch paint dry".

Basketball to me has way too much scoring hard to get supper excited over a mid range jumper to make the score 4-2 when you know it’s going to come down to the final possession in a 141-140 game , FF to the end please without the billion timeouts. I hear some people get excited over a 1-0 baseball game ending in the 12 walking in the winning run , sounds like 5 hours of fun.

For me, it wouldn't be the 0-0 as much as the 4 SOG... even at 18 total shots, that's a shot every 5 minutes. Of course, there's more to appreciate than just scoring chances, but it makes it that much harder for people to get into it if they didn't either grow up watching or playing.

Might flip over to Argentina/Mexico and give it a shot, given Michigan/OSU seems to be going to commercial every 90 seconds or so. :banghead:

When does this World Cup thing finally come to the end?

Must be awful to have me in your head full time sipping on my baked bean sundae enjoying the meltdown. If you can't hack being called out for being a mong then put me on ignore. Nearly everything you've said in this thread is certifiable bollocks so what do you expect me to do? Any man hurt by words ain't a man at all.

As with anything, once you are emotionally attached it makes everything more interesting and intense.

OK, it's pretty clear, a soccer player used to take Willie's lunch money because, well, soccer has him ****ED up. And "Basketball!!!", what a pussy! LMAO

What the hell are you even saying.

It’s hard to compare a 0-0 football game to a 0-0 soccer game tbh.

Soccer scores are like hockey games tbh, but still scores a bit less than hockey yet the rule of thumb is that when you go to a hockey game in real life, you become a fan forever. The scores of certain sports really don’t depict the enjoyment of the game.

And if you did care enough to compare soccer and football, England game vs Irans 6-2 would equal out to a 42-14 score line if goals count as touchdowns…

Why you gotta fill every single thread with some type of "woke" bullshit talk.

I wish our men would follow in our women's footsteps because our women are the best in the entire world. That's not just recently, but since 1991. I put their world cup record in an earlier post, but didn't include their CONCACAF record. They've won 1st every single time, but once. They have 42 wins 1 loss 1 draw and the absolute most insane stat of that is their goals for and goals against. They have scored 212 goals and only allowed 6 in CONCACAF. That's complete domination.

The best international game in recent memory is the Italy Germany game from 2006 which was 0-0 until the 119th minute when Italy got the winner. Nil nil games can be boring but they can be incredible and much better than a scoring close game in the NFL like our ****ing disaster class versus the Colts this year.

https://youtu.be/EtEKVp-wRJU

In person hockey is by far the most exciting sporting event I've ever been to. It was college club hockey in Jefferson City lol. It was amazing.

The players are being woke. Just facts.

Most of the world doesn't care about women's soccer. That is why our team dominates.