Opened my PS4 yesterday...everything is amazing so far..one pretty big problem though.

have tried to make a psn at least 15 times now...internet is at 100 percent, it just keeps saying there's an issue with the server. very unsatisfied because i wanted to play madden & bf4 online.

one another note...the PS4 controller is easily the best controller I've ever used.

The servers crashed yesterday, no idea if they're fixed yet.

Should be fine by tomorrow. Everyone is opening their new PS4s so the network suffers.

Son got PS4 for Christmas. Could not get online this afternoon but is playing online tonight so it has been resolved here.

3ds servers are out tonight.

That's what I thought, Toronto got hit with a pretty bad ice storm as well. Didn't have power up until yesterday lasted 3 days

which games?

Killzone

AC "Black Flag"

They did, kind of.

You have to have a "family pass" now.

Is it like the the old family accts. You pay for X # of Live accts?

So you still have to pay per person? What a ****ing joke.

Depends on how you look at it man. If the cost is similar to the 360, paying $25 a year for a Live Acct is uber cheap.

See, with PSN+ you only have to pay for one account and all accounts on the console get access to online play. This is why I won't go the MS route anymore.

I understand what you're saying - $2/month per person just never bothered me I guess.

See heres the thing. I shouldn't have to pay for each of my kids to be able to watch netflix or whatever on their account when they may not even play an online game. On PS this is not an issue because my ONE PSN account covers everyone. On XB each person has to have an account to be able to access things like netflix. Its bullshit.

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XB I would have to allow my kids access to my profile to do online things. Then my youngest would accidentally purchase something. I don't have to worry about that on PS.