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'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:10 PM

**** my ****ing life.

Marcellus 10-24-2011 09:10 PM

:facepalm:

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:10 PM

Rzep got his DP ball, but fumbled it. Napoli time.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:11 PM

This team is so ****ing done.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:13 PM

There has never been anything more predictable in the history of sports than this outcome.

**** this shit.

jd1020 10-24-2011 09:13 PM

I don't know if the Cards can win 2 games back to back in Stl.

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:13 PM

Mike Napoli's career OPS vs. LHP: .955

Not surprising in the least.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:14 PM

I really, really really hate sports sometimes.

Chiefaholic 10-24-2011 09:15 PM

The Cardiac Cards strike again

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8046702)
I don't know if the Cards can win 2 games back to back in Stl.

We aren't winning another ****ing game. This team is absolutely ****ing done.

BigRedChief 10-24-2011 09:15 PM

1-12 with RISP in a close game will get you beat every time.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8046713)
1-12 with RISP in a close game will get you beat every time.

So will pinch bunting and intentionally taking the bat out of the hands of the best right handed hitter in the history of the game.

kcpasco 10-24-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8046701)
There has never been anything more predictable in the history of sports than this outcome.

**** this shit.

Well the Rangers did what the Cardinals couldn't do all night.

1-12 with runners in scoring position.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:18 PM

I said it an hour ago, but it bears repeating again:

Level III: The Guillotine
Definition: This one combines the devastation of the Broken Axle game with sweeping bitterness and hostility ... your team's hanging tough (hell, they might even be winning), but you can feel the inevitable breakdown coming, and you keep waiting for the guillotine to drop, and you just know it's coming -- you know it -- and when it finally comes, you're angry that it happened and you're angry at yourself for contributing to the debilitating karma ... these are the games when people end up whipping their remote controls against a wall or breaking their hands while pounding a coffee table ... too many of these and you'll end up in prison.

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:18 PM

TLR should have let Dotel face Cruz, then brought Rzep in for Murphy. Odds would have been better that way + no Napoli.

Maybe Wash batting Napoli 8th fooled him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:19 PM

Just a horribly, horribly managed and executed game.

Oh this makes a ton of ****ing sense. Now you're putting Kinsler's BA against Andrus' OBP. Dumbass.

jd1020 10-24-2011 09:20 PM

wtf?

Bring in a pitcher for an intentional walk?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:20 PM

What the ****? WHAT THE ****ING ****??

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:21 PM

TLR is a sneaky bastard. Have never seen something like that.

tk13 10-24-2011 09:21 PM

Did you really just put in a pitcher for an intentional walk? I is confused.

kcpasco 10-24-2011 09:22 PM

Well Craig has to get on base next inning to give Albert a chance

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:22 PM

Seriously, if you're gonna do that, just move Rzep to 2nd and have Punto IBB the guy. What in the god****ing **** was that horseshit?

La Russa didn't just lose his mind, he punted the ****ing thing into the Hubble Deep Field.

BigRedChief 10-24-2011 09:22 PM

WTF was that with Lynn? Why not have Scrabble intentionallly walk the batter?

tk13 10-24-2011 09:23 PM

Probably won't matter, but theoretically if this game somehow got to extras that move would look historically stupid.

stonedstooge 10-24-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8046741)
Seriously, if you're gonna do that, just move Rzep to 2nd and have Punto IBB the guy. What in the god****ing **** was that horseshit?

La Russa didn't just lose his mind, he punted the ****ing thing into the Hubble Deep Field.

ROFL LaRussa ROFL

jd1020 10-24-2011 09:23 PM

How dumb is that going to look if the Cards come back and someone like Schumaker has to pitch.

That's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Shag 10-24-2011 09:24 PM

It was obviously a ploy to buy time to get Mott warmed up. The walk from the bullpen, warmup time, and then walk the hitter. Never seen that before...

Bummer how this game has turned out...

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:24 PM

It looked like even Dotel was saying WTF on the bench.

Rams Fan 10-24-2011 09:25 PM

TMD is going to have an excuse for Tony.

jd1020 10-24-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 8046752)
It was obviously a ploy to buy time to get Mott warmed up. The walk from the bullpen, warmup time, and then walk the hitter. Never seen that before...

Bummer how this game has turned out...

You can waste time so many other ways rather than wasting a pitcher to intentionally throw 4 balls.

Just play catch with the 3rd baseman for 6 pitches...

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 8046751)
It was obviously a ploy to buy time to get Mott warmed up. The walk from the bullpen, warmup time, and then walk the hitter. Never seen that before...

Bummer how this game has turned out...

Then have Punto go to pitcher and move Rzep to 2nd. You still get warmup pitches and he can throw them as well as anyone else. Don't burn a pitcher to throw 4. And if you're gonna do that, why the **** wouldn't you bring in Boggs or Westbrook to do it? Boggs can't be used today anyway.

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:26 PM

LookoutLanding Jeff Sullivan
Lance Lynn is the fifth pitcher in postseason history to intentionally walk the one guy he faced

In the other times, I'm sure that the opposing team pinch hit after the IBB and the pitcher was pulled. Not this time, though.

Rams Fan 10-24-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8046672)
The IBB could conceivably bring Mike Napoli up this inning with runners on. I don't like it.

You're like a psychic.

kcpasco 10-24-2011 09:28 PM

Come on Craig

BigRedChief 10-24-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8046747)
Probably won't matter, but theoretically if this game somehow got to extras that move would look historically stupid.

The first 6 batters in the top of the 9th can hit a home run. Why take out your only pitcher than can throw two innings to just intentionally walk a batter?

I know the way we have been swinging the bats its a long shot but what was gained by burning him?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:29 PM

How can you possibly justify that decision? I just want to ****ing puke right now. What an absolute ****ing waste to give this game away like this.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:30 PM

Does Washington have the ****ing balls to walk Pujols here.

tk13 10-24-2011 09:30 PM

Here's my baseball advice. No matter what happens here, do not run.

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 8046760)
You're like a psychic.

No, I just watched Mike Napoli hit in 2011 far better than everybody else in the Rangers lineup. Dude's on fire...has been all year. Why you'd want to increase the chance that he hits with runners on, I'm not sure.

SPchief 10-24-2011 09:31 PM

Haven't seen any of the game. Is the strikezone the reason the Cards are down?

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 8046782)
Haven't seen any of the game. Is the strikezone the reason the Cards are down?

Napoli and TLR.

Buck 10-24-2011 09:32 PM

Pujols can cement his legacy right ****ing here. He can also cement his $200 million dollar contract too.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:33 PM

Why would you send the runner there on 3-2? If he K's you probably have a strike em out-throw em out and the run on first doesn't tie the game.

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8046785)
Why would you send the runner there on 3-2? If he K's you probably have a strike em out-throw em out and the run on first doesn't tie the game.

TLR

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 8046782)
Haven't seen any of the game. Is the strikezone the reason the Cards are down?

Worst managed game in the history of organized sports on any level.

Buck 10-24-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8046787)
Pujols can cement his legacy right ****ing here. He can also cement his $200 million dollar contract too.

nope.jpg

jd1020 10-24-2011 09:33 PM

ROFL

SPchief 10-24-2011 09:33 PM

Heh

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8046785)
Why would you send the runner there on 3-2? If he K's you probably have a strike em out-throw em out and the run on first doesn't tie the game.

Someone just ****ing kill me right now.

kcpasco 10-24-2011 09:34 PM

Damn why didn't Albert just take the walk there

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-24-2011 09:34 PM

Lol pujols... Swung at two ball 4s

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:34 PM

Yeah, this is the worst managed game I've ever seen.

stonedstooge 10-24-2011 09:34 PM

TLR Rules

alnorth 10-24-2011 09:34 PM

hahahaha, die Cardinals!

Buck 10-24-2011 09:35 PM

lolz at sending the runner in a 2 run game

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:35 PM

At this point I don't care. I just want Tony gone, no matter what happens.

WilliamTheIrish 10-24-2011 09:35 PM

TLR,

I don't understand that play at all.

WilliamTheIrish 10-24-2011 09:35 PM

TLR,

I don't understand that play at all.

kcpasco 10-24-2011 09:35 PM

Albert should have just taken the walk

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8046801)
lolz at sending the runner in a 2 run game

Completely meaningless run. Most teams just give that runner 2nd base.

Unbelievable what just happened.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-24-2011 09:37 PM

Feliz is so terrible. Holy shit

jd1020 10-24-2011 09:37 PM

Incoming 2 run homer that would have been 3.

Buck 10-24-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8046808)
Completely meaningless run. Most teams just give that runner 2nd base.

Unbelievable what just happened.

Yep, and at worst it should be 1 out man on first and second here.

What a dumb ****ing play.

Berkman has homerun power though.

Rams Fan 10-24-2011 09:38 PM

LaRussa pushes all the right buttons/The Meat Dragon

SPchief 10-24-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8046808)
Completely meaningless run. Most teams just give that runner 2nd base.

Unbelievable what just happened.

You dont give up a runner in teh WS. And TLR is dumb for sending him down 2

SPchief 10-24-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 8046816)
You dont give up a runner in teh WS. And TLR is dumb for sending him down 2

K coming here

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 8046816)
You dont give up a runner in teh WS.

Why not? If you don't hold the runner on, your defense is in a better position for Pujols.

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:39 PM

Time to steal with Holliday.

kcpasco 10-24-2011 09:40 PM

If Albert took that walk it would have been bases loaded no outs

RedandGold 10-24-2011 09:40 PM

Well, that was pathetic...

Buck 10-24-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8046825)
Why not? If you don't hold the runner on, your defense is in a better position for Pujols.

I can see letting the runner grab second in a 3 or 4 run game in the regular season, but not with a 2 run lead in the best hitter's park in baseball in the 9th inning in the World Series. Protect all runs from scoring.

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:40 PM

Berkman might have made it there if he started running initially.

Rams Fan 10-24-2011 09:42 PM

The Meat Dragon, where are you?

KC_Connection 10-24-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8046833)
I can see letting the runner grab second in a 3 or 4 run game in the regular season, but not with a 2 run lead in the best hitter's park in baseball in the 9th inning in the World Series. Protect all runs from scoring.

It's the 9th, it's the run at the plate that matters. The one on the bases shouldn't play a factor in your team's decision making at all. Anything to decrease the odds of their team scoring a 2nd run is necessary.

Brianfo 10-24-2011 09:43 PM

Tards are done. Pujols swings at ball 6 inches out of zone. Lol. My prediction will come to fruition. Rangers in 6.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-24-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8046833)
I can see letting the runner grab second in a 3 or 4 run game in the regular season, but not with a 2 run lead in the best hitter's park in baseball in the 9th inning in the World Series. Protect all runs from scoring.

That run makes absolutely no difference in the outcome of the game. Putting the runner in jeopardy of being thrown out is so far beyond stupid that words cannot do it justice.

SPchief 10-24-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8046825)
Why not? If you don't hold the runner on, your defense is in a better position for Pujols.

Because its an out

O.city 10-24-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 8046797)
Damn why didn't Albert just take the walk there

Albert is 0 for 12 in 4 of the 5 games in the WS. Take the money and go if you want, I'm done. He tries to do to much in a big spot instead of just taking the walk. All he has done is ask for us to bring in guys to win, we have done that. If he wants to leave, **** him, see ya later.

Brianfo 10-24-2011 09:44 PM

Hamas, where you at?? Is there an echo in here. Eat my ass!!

Buck 10-24-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 8046842)
It's the 9th, it's the run at the plate that matters. The one on the bases shouldn't play a factor in your team's decision making at all. Anything to decrease the odds of their team scoring a 2nd run is necessary.

I can see your argument, just in this specific case I disagree with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8046845)
That run makes absolutely no difference in the outcome of the game. Putting the runner in jeopardy of being thrown out is so far beyond stupid that words cannot do it justice.

Yeah I know. Apparently KC_Connection and TLR are on the same brainwave there. There is no way you risk letting that runner die.


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