Eric Berry
Glenn Dorsey
Derrick Johnson

Yep. I almost forgot about that.

Let me take this time to congratulate you for your impeccable foresight regarding Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Just watched most of the video through 3 quarters and these are the negatives I saw.

Throwing off his back foot multiple times. Just can’t do that in the NFL or you’ll get picked off.

20:35 4th down-Very obvious blitz in the A gap by the LB. He should know that he has to get the ball out quickly because he won’t have time. He had his WR at the top left in single coverage and should have made the quick pass to him. Furthermore, he has 17 seconds left on the clock to snap the ball. If he would have done a hard count he would have seen the other LB preparing to blitz and could have changed the play, but he didn’t read this play well at all. He has to work on this.

30:23-Needs to set his feet use the proper technique when he throws. He launched his whole body into that throw while on the run which made it a really ugly pass.

45:45-WR wide open on the far left side. Geno didn’t even see him because he locked onto his first read (Tavon Austin) who was in triple coverage. This is what I was talking about. He needs to go through his progressions. OL gave him plenty of time to do that as well.

Said his big negatives were locking onto his first read and not reading defenses well at the LOS. Those plays I highlighted emphasize those points.

It can be improved, but it is a cause for concern, whether people will admit it or not.

EXACTLY. If the Chiefs didn't need a QB in the worst possible way, most here wiuld see Smith for what he is.

You can, and NEED to throw off your back foot in the NFL when the situation calls for it.

All of the great QBs do.

One of the greatest ****ing passes in NFL history came off Joe Montana's back foot.

One of the reasons Cassel sucks is because when he tries to throw off his back foot he's incapable of delivering an accurate pass. Geno can do it in his sleep because he's TALENTED.

Shut up.

What a sick throw. From under center, too.

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Don't care how talented he is at doing it. If you were to ask any OC or QB coach if they would rather have their QB throw off their back foot or briefly stop, get the technique down and step into their throws, which one would they have their QB do?

Geno can make every throw, but a lot of the time he has time to set his feet and throw it properly but either throws it off his back foot launches his body into throws.

Not a big problem at all. Very coachable. But it will come up when he's watching film with his coaches. That's guaranteed.

The gif you have in the post above mine is a perfect example of him setting his feet and using his technique to step into his throw and make a perfect pass.

Bitching about Geno throwing off his back foot is still stupid.

He does it well. And as you said, it's coachable.

To say he can't do that in the NFL is also stupid. Lots of great QBs do it.

GTFO

When did I say he can't do it in the NFL?

And what about him locking onto WR's constantly (Tavon Austin) when other WR's are open or not reading blitzes at the LOS very well?

Those are legitimate problems.

LMAO really?

Can't do it consistently in the NFL. My bad. Almost 4 am and the sleep deprivation is kicking in. :)

What about this? You never answered this question Clayton..

Don't care about that. Only care about calling you on your bullshit.

I have learned, in this season more than any other in recent memory, that a vast majority of our fan base is so ****ing stupid, I'm having serious and fun-filled fantasies that involve black and white flashbacks with idiots in Zubaz being escorted by other idiots in grey trench coats to the local "selective breeding" program.

TAKE ME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

When we draft Geno, I'm going to pinch my balls in a vise and hit a high note just like the singer from "A-HA" in sheer joy!

I really CAN watch this guy play football ALL ****ing day.

It was because it was his first read. He couldn't have made that pass out of playaction like that from there unless it was his first read. Great ****ing throw though.

What is he other than an extremely accurate, athletically talented QB that needs coaching?

So now we're hypothesizing about what Geno can't do based on things that didn't happen on a TD pass.

If only we held Matt Cassel to such high standards.

That wasn't a negative statement. Shit, are you kidding me? I want chocolate pain! I'm just saying, it would be virtually impossible to make that throw on a 2nd or 3rd read from the 8 yard line. ****, Matt Cassel couldn't have made that throw out of a damned shotgun.

Btw, that pass was delivered in the perfect spot. I mean perfect. Only the receiver had an opportunity to catch that pass.

I guess I don't get what you're saying then. That's gonna be the first read for every QB on that play.

Really, the more impressive thing to me is he was able to deliver that ball in such a short amount of time out of playaction. I mean, that play was boom, boom, boom, and it was spot on.

Yeah, I was just focused on the playaction. It was impressive from under center, but the playaction is what made it impossible from any position besides a first read. Had the playaction not been there, he could've made that throw on a 2nd read. Whatever, I'm just over analyzing it.

People are WAY to fixated on this "1st read" bullshit.

You know how many times a game a QB in the NFL goes to his 2nd read? How many times does he go to his 3rd?

Guys don't go through their progressions on EVERY ****ING PLAY.

NFL offenses are designed to exploit matchups. Even NFL QBs go to their 1st read more often than ANYWHERE else.

LOL, Matt Cassel did it to us, because that ****er has tunnel vision unlike anything I've ever seen. And again, it wasn't a goddamned negative statement. Just an over analyzation.

I wasn't meaning to single you out.

Everybody seems to be talking about it.

Sorry. Clay has me feeling insecure. I don't want a declaration of Independence, MO thread about me...

It's cool bro. I'm not gonna waterboard your ass.

Whew. That was a close one.

But one more thread about even contemplating being OK with not drafting a QB at 1/1 and...

Yeah. Tried to create some conversation, and almost got cornholed by the rusty, AIDS fork.

I've seen him look off his 1st read and 2nd read and go to his third option, Thats all I needed to see to climb on board. The first video I saw he went 1st read all the time and that worried me. After watching a few others I saw times people weren't open and he went to a second or third read. Sold.

I've looked around trying to find his 'top end' so to speak, and there really aren't any good videos of it.

We've all seen that Barkley throw where he puts his entire body into it and gets it 60 yards with a hump. We've also seen a bunch of touch passes in that 40 yard range from Geno.

What I'd love to see is just how well he can sling that ball when he needs to. Can he give you a 60 yarder without needing his whole body and 4 strides. Can he give you a piss-rocket into a seam 30-40 yards downfield.

I think he has an elite arm, but I'm extrapolating that from what I can see from his touch passes. He rarely truly muscles up and rockets a throw.

In other words - what exactly is his fastball? I've not seen it just yet.

I was at the game - Luck was shitty.

He had a good drive, but apart from one good drive he was awful. He had those 'Cassel drops' where he was throwing it behind guys or over them and they were getting 'drops' because the passes were not very catchable.

Look, Luck is going to be an amazing QB, but lets not act like he never struggles. He had an undeniably bad game on Sunday. He was missing targets all day and it was clear to anyone that wasn't looking to suck him off.

In Luck's defense he had 5 passes dropped.

That changed the game. That's via PFF, and those were the passes that hit guys right in both hands. They just dropped them because of contact.

What's he got upsatirs?

Why don't you research all the good stuff he has upstairs before assuming he's not a smart player?

The answer is, "Lots," by the way

He reportedly has a very high football IQ. My own personal opinion is that his biggest decision-making issue is that at times he tries to fit the ball into windows that just aren't advisable. There are a few things I don't like - sometimes his mechanics aren't solid and he hold onto the ball too long.

He's just got a metric shit ton of upside. Guys with his type of accuracy don't come along every day.

No - his attitude. Does he get frustrated when things don't go right? How is he going to react if he does not experience success right away? Can he pull himself up? Is he mentally styrong? THIS is what I'm concerned about. Talent-wise you're spot on.

But on at least 2 of those that I can recall, he led his WR right into an absolute monster of a hit.

If he had Cassel on the back of his jersey, nobody would have defended that outing. He got a few guys absolutely destroyed, he was firing erratically all day and seemed to truly be rattled at times.

He made one of the better plays I've seen this year on a simple screen, though. The screen was covered and rather than panic, he made a pump fake to get the DE in the air, then pitched it right over him after he landed. It was a very heady, instinctive play that most QBs don't make. They tend to think of a screen as this rapid-fire, panic play where if it is diagnosed, you're ****ed. Well that one got diagnosed and Luck smartly kept his wits about him and saved the play.

You saw some flashes of what will make him an elite QB, but in the end it really was a bad day for Luck.

u steal my avatar? its okay, you can use it. its all towards the common goal.:hmmm:

After watching even more footage...If he's not the consensus number one overall player or at least in the disussion in this draft, it's a crime. We need this guy.

it's obvious to everybody but the dumbasses.

There are a lot of them on FB.

A smart, accurate QB, with solid mobility, and a great deep ball....PASS. Dumb****s.

No Geno, No fandom. Done. Finished. **** this franchise in the ass.

Gates BBQ will become my new sports team. I wonder; do they have a license plate I can get for the car?

Mmm..."Struttin". I like it!

Stedman Bailey highlights with Geno making all the throws.

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Watch the play at the 1:20 mark. Geno runs through all the progressions before finding Bailey for the TD.

That corner pass against NC State's David Amerson is sick as well when he's got two guys hanging on him.

I'm truly amazed that there is any criticism of this guy. He's about as good as it gets for a QB at this level and the upside is utterly ridiculous.

Look at Geno throw on the run. Look at it you dumb bitches.

Chiefs Fans:

So stoopid it ****ing hurts.

Half of these idiots will swap sides as soon as Mayock or Kiper hop on Geno's nutsack right before the draft.

John Clayton said Romeo will get canned probably Monday or Tuesday. He also said the Jags and Chiefs have to decide if they want to reach in the draft or get a vet. He said they'll likely look to the Jets in 09 when they reached for Sanchez and how bad that turned out. The possibility is there that we won't draft a QB high.

He said nothing about Pioli getting fired.

Because every top 3 QB is Mark Sanchez. :facepalm:

Geno is pretty much the opposite of Sanchez FFS.

Yeah, that killed the franchise.

Chiefs traded for a "safer" option, and this player failed, at least, as miserably as Sanchez.

And both teams are in the same position to draft another one.

If the drafted QB fails, big ****ing deal. Try again.

Our new GM won't not take a QB at 1 because the Jets ****ed up with Sanchez.

John Clayton is a moron.

ESPN acts as if Kiper and McShay's scouting is prophet.

Yeah, just don't sign him to an extension when he hasn't proven shit, ala the New York Jets.

It's not like we aren't used to being in this 43 year Super Bowl drought. What harm could it possibly cause at this point? 2 ****ing wins. 2!

Exactly.

Sanchez was a one year starter with NFL level talent all around him.

Geno is a three year starter with no offensive line, no running game and one of the worst defenses in college football.

And he still passes for 71.4% completion and 40 TDs to 6 Ints while forcing the ball nearly all season long because of the defense. That's ****ing ridiculous. His numbers against teams without top 20 defenses were ridiculous. The Baylor game. The Kansas game. Most college QB's can't pass like that against air and Geno was doing it in game.

Geno Smith is as far from a "reach" at the QB position as I've ever seen.

These "experts" are ****ing morons.

And with the way that rookie salaries are nowadays, even if Geno fails horribly, we we would be in a position to draft another one early next year easily.

Jets didn't really have that option due to Marks 28M guaranteed.

And we'll swat them the **** off like the useless crab louse they are.

The Jets won four playoff games with Mark Sanchez.

The Chiefs had an exciting opening Monday Night Football win against San Diego.

Yeah, Jets really should have traded for Cassel.

How conveniently people forget this much salient fact, yes.

Geno has a bad month of October, but still doesn't look horrible, and he gets destroyed for it.

RG3 has a bad month of October and barely defeats the worst team in college football and gets applauded for it.

Yep, seeing how we haven't won a ****ing playoff game in 18 ****ing years.... and counting.

He has had a couple of instances where he's reacted badly in the face of adversity.

Jay Cutler or Phillip Rivers, he is not.

You mean McShay or Kiper.

Mayock will be on him around Senior Bowl time, when it becomes obvious he's a stud, alal Russell Wilson last year.

Mayock is pretty solid in his QB analysis.

Pioli is getting fired.

Precisely.

It's amazing that some of us here have a better grasp of the rookie payscale than the so-called "experts" do.

He actually only had two bad games - Kansas State and Texas Tech. And he still ended up with a QB rating of over 100 for those games.

Matt Cassel's 2012 QB rating is 66.7.

Brady Quinn's 2012 QB rating is 60.8.

Yeah...let's draft a linebacker or an offensive linemen because that will so help this team.

****ing morons. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who isn't full on for Geno Smith as the Chiefs #1 pick should throw themselves into a pit of scorpions.

Yep...sorry....I meant McShay and Kiper.

LMAO

NFL Live is about to do a piece on the Jacksonville/Tennessee matchup and what teams like those when they're in positions "playing for pride" at the end of the year

I can't wait to laugh at all the reeruned platitudes Damien Woody and all the roided-up former jocks on the show are about to put forth.

Meanwhile the Chiefs will be laughing all the way to the stage at Radio City Music Hall to draft Geno Smith.

I don't even think the Texas Tech game was that bad. Sure he made some mistakes for scouting purposes, but he didn't turn the ball over and if you watch the tape, his WR's dropped some deep balls that hit them in the hands.

You can't possibly expect any QB to score every freaking drive just to keep his team in the game.

Here's a highlight of my favorite Geno Smith game of the 2012 season - WVU vs. Texas.

In Texas, Smith had to play from behind nearly the whole game and the Longhorns were just unloading on him for the entire game. Okafor, who's a potential first round draft choice was just raping the O-line all game long. Geno showed a lot of moxie in this game and made some really big time throws.

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College QB rating isn't the same as the NFL.

Just saying.

I love Geno, BTW :)

It's almost like national sports media is terrified of Pioli.

No one ever says anything negative about him.

And yet, that's basically what Geno had to do nearly every single conference game this season.

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At the :50 mark and at about 1:10...he could check it down very easily, but he shows poise and pushes the ball down the field, while making a good decision with the football.

For as much as Geno throws the quick slant at WV, I hope whomever is the OC for the Chiefs will utilize Geno's quick release for some slants, which are imo one of the best offensive plays in football.

Thinking about Geno running this team gets me all sorts of horny