I'm right here. I've been here all night unlike your cowardly, troll ass. Enjoy the neg rep bomb.

You're such a flip flopping bitch. Go back to Milwaukee or wherever the **** you are from. I don't care .

You come in this forum and bitch "oh well the Cardinals have done this good game blah blah blah. **** you.

We found something worse than stealing with Allen Craig with Pujols at the plate in the 7th, I think. It was Allen Craig stealing in the 9th.

I'm trying to figure out what KCconnecton is trying to argue here. It was a horrific move for TLR to send the runner. But its a great move for the Rangers to try and get him.

Both times just stay at 1st. If he hits into a dp then **** it.


Worst managed game in the history of baseball.

Where the **** is Hootie?

Well if we just win our home games.....Nah **** that. It's done.

It's also not a runner you should be worried about. If Pujols gets a hit in the hole that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise, you can bet that decision to hold the runner on would be questioned.

In any case, this is about TLR running...not about Wash's decision to hold the runner on. There's no question which is stupider.

That was one pathetic 9th inning.

I've just never seen anything more inexplicably stupid than that ****ing managing job.

Are you ****ing serious? I just can't even comprehend the stupidity of Tony. It just doesn't make any ****ing sense at all.

This. Even with Pujols at bat.

Neg rhep = ghey. Is that all you got??? Neg rhep me until you die. Your team is still going to lose in the world series and your manager has proved on a national stage that his ego is bigger than the team. Eat my ass!

That should really be the narrative of this game. I hope the media doesn't hold back.

Get the **** out, bitch.

Where the **** were you for games 1 and 3?

Oh yeah that's right, you were being a first class dick bag who couldn't handle shit.

Go **** off to nude pictures of Nolan Ryan.

The Rangers were worried about it AND they won. Why the hell are you arguing against what they did?

The worst that happens if they sail the throw is runner on third, and apparently, according to you, they didn't give a shit about that runner, so what's the point of not throwing it?

Shut the **** up, troll.

Scoreboard!!

**** you you cocksucking ass hat.

And who the **** is your team? If it's Milwaukee then how did losing an elimination game in your home stadium feel? If it's someone else, then how can you talk one quintillionth of a gram of shit? Where is your team?

If I was a Rangers fan, I'd prefer to keep my fielders at regular depth over holding him on and hoping for a DP. It decreases the chance that Pujols would get a hit (and he's the run that matters).

Aren't you a ****ing Brewers fan?

Where the **** are they? oh yeah.


Go fornicate yourself with a pig dic asshole

Where were you for Games 1 and 3, jackass?

**** off mother ****ing piece of ****ing flaming hot shit that came right from LaRussa's ass.

With no outs, I think the rangers are more worried about getting outs. And they got 2 of them there. Stupid move by TLR period.

TLR says it was a mix-up. Then what the hell was the decision to send him in the 9th?

Brianfo, get the **** back in here.

Both times it's a dumb****ingassmove. period.


We are gonna have to pull a hige ass rabbit out of our demon hole to win this thing.


Series over.

He's a dumb****. I wouldn't even waste your time with that clown.

He's gone. **** him.

You enjoying watching the game on the TV like your pal Morgan?

Scoreboard? You kidding me? Your team mortgaged its future and we kicked your ass and celebrated on your home field.

Scoreboard? ROFL

Also said it was an error when Scrabble came in.

Albert should have just taken the walk in the 9th, that pitch was 1 foot off the plate.

What happened with the Allen Craig attempted stolen base in the 7th? They were saying that Pujols put on the hit and run on his own?

It was a ****ed up game by a dead team. Thats it. game over.

Oh well, gotta forget about it.
Let's win 2 at home.

Let's review....he steals with Craig in front of Pujols in the 7th which results in a CS and a predictable IBB, he IBB's Cruz with his best RHP to almost ensure that the best hitter on the Rangers comes up with runners on, he leaves a LHP (Rzep) to face a lefty masher in Napoli and the predictable happens, then he attempts to steal with Craig in the 9th and jeopardizes the runner that gives the Cards the chance to tie it which ends in failure.

That was all in just 2.5 innings.

Oh well, gotta forget about it.
Let's win 2 at home.

Either that or Craig missed a sign. Both are indefensible.

We deserved to lose that game, but to do the things that made us deserve to lose is just absolutely maddening.

Remember 1985? We are up 3-2 going to KC after kicking their ass in STL?

We are going to have to play better, manage better etc. But it ain't over until its over. These guys have battled back from extinction for the last 2 months. Maybe, just maybe they have one last battle left in them.

He should have, no doubt. But if he hits a LD to Beltre or Young, you're still every bit as ****ed.

Poor execution is obviously shitty, but mental mistakes like sending the runner there when that runner's position if it isn't home means nothing, is beyond the pale.

LaRussa says that the bullpen coach misheard who he wanted to get up and ready

One of the worst excuses I've ever seen to go along with the worst managed game.

Then, again, switch Rzep with Furcal or Punto and have them IBB the batter, saving Lynn.

He was awful nervous speaking. Is that dude ok?

So many men LOB today. When that happens it basically gives the momentum to the other team after a while and always seems to promise that the other team will get the one clutch hit.

Your offense has been getting chances against them save for game 4. I understand you guys feel right now but from an outsider it isn't far-fetched at all that you win the series. You obviously don't have great SP for the next two games, but does Texas?

Albert called the hit and run himself, twice.

Unforunately that dipshit is a Royals fan. And he is every bit of the dipshit as a Royals fan as he is as a troll on this thread.

If you've read "Three Nights in August," you know LaRussa would lie in a second to protect a mistake by a player or coach. All this talk on ESPN that you have to trust what LaRussa said is bogus.

Why is everyone calling for me? Lol

Im cheering for Texas...

And I don't give a shit about the overreacters on this site...larussa is a hall of fame, all time great manager...stop crying you vaginas

You lost to a superior team it appears...win your home games and you'll be a-ok

A Royals fan coming in here and posting Scoreboard? WTF? ROFL

Because your theory about TLR's infallibility was shot full of more holes than Sonny Corleone.

They can't hear on the phone and TLR wanted Motte to face Napoli but they got the wrong person up? Then they got Lynn up instead of Motte again? Did I hear TLR's conference correct?

That is such ****ing bullshit.

If you wanted to do that, bring in Jackson to face the batter have him check at first after his warmup pitches, then remove him. Then do the same thing with Boggs or Westbrook. There are a million ways around that situation, and all of them lead to you still having more than enough time for a fully warmed up Motte to come in.

OMFG its true. Just saw TLR himself say it on eSPN. How can you not see they had the wrong person up and go out and stop the game and get the right person up?

You guys really shouldn't get caught up in anything that's said the next two days. They are going to run all kinds of interference to confuse people.

SI's Jon Heyman has tweeted in the last 15 min. that he has heard that Pujols called the hit and run on the Craig CS, and from someone else that the call came from the bench.

LaRussa also said to the media that Lynn wasn't available to pitch, Lynn told the media he felt fine.

Not available or wasn't ready? They're using all sorts of terms that could have different meanings.

TLR is the manager, these decisions are on him.

Blah blah blah

The cards lost, go win two at home and stop crying about things not working out...

Get napoli out once in a while and you'd win another world series...

Stirring rebuttal.

You might not have had to pitch to Napoli with runners on if you didn't intentionally walk Cruz. You also might not have had Napoli hit a game winning double if you brought a hard throwing righty in, not a lefty (the type of pitcher he destroys).

You lost the game...of course it is on albert and larussa...I follow the thread I know how it works

The reporters are coming out of the Cards dugouts saying WTF to the conflicting excuses.

Or maybe cruz hits a 2 run shot!?!?!?!?!?!?!! And then I guess tlr Shoulda ibb'd him!!!!

Yep...I know how this game goes

Im stoked Texas may win...I finally get to riot in a WS champion city!!!! Pumped!

This season, Nelson Cruz got on base less than 32% of the time. The average RHB got on base less than 20% against Octavio Dotel.

Mike Napoli, though, has a 1.049 OPS vs. LHP.


No, you don't.

No, you don't.

Having Rzep pinch to Napoli was but one poor decision. It pales in comparison to having Craig bunt in the third, taking the bat out of Albert's hands, letting Craig run on a 3-2 count in the 9th against a strikeout pitcher when him being on second means nothing, and bringing in a pitcher just to IBB someone, burning someone who can go multiple innings in the process.

If you want to blame people for this game, it needs to be TLR then Holliday.

The sacrifice bunting shit is pissing me off. You aren't beating this team by 1 run with 5 innings left to play.

I agree with what you are saying but non of the pitching matters if the Cards get hits with RISP. You did mention Holliday but everyone that failed to get those runners in deserves blame over everything else. Holliday gets paid a whole lot more than Punto but a lot of different guys failed to get a big hit and to me that that was what cost the Cards the game. It should have been like 6 to 2 by the bottom of the 8th.

There is no doubt that the Cardinal bats failed and failed miserably and should be taken to task, but Tony also put those bats in the worst positions imaginable multiple times (3rd, 7th, 8th, 9th) with dumb****ery of unimaginable proportions.

Rather than have Craig bat against Wilson, who had control problems, with Furcal on 2nd, he has him bunt Furcal over, thus ensuring 1) your best hitter will be walked and 2) A DP gets Texas out of the inning

Rather than have Craig stay put under any and all circumstances, he either orders a hit and run or allows Pujols to order a hit and run

Rather than keep Schumaker in the game, saving Theriot for a legitimate PH appearance against a lefty, he brings in Theriot to SAC ****ING BUNT. Even if you wanted to bring in Theriot to sac bunt, why wouldn't you have Jay do it, who is a demonstrably worse hitter but a better bunter with more sacs on the year than Theriot?

And then, as if that weren't enough, we calls for the runner to go on 3-2 against Feliz when that runner scoring does not tie the game.

The bats need to come to life back in St. Louis. I'm not blaming Garcia for losing a 4-3 ball game.

Look, if Garcia gives up 10 ****ing runs Wednesday, the only thing it did is prevent a game 7 that should have happened anyway if not for the ineptitude of our bats in games 2 and 5 and TLR's dumb****ification in game 5.

Garcia is not a great pitcher but gave us a great performance in game 2. He's earned a pass for this series.

This. And they just might...Bottom line is this has been a good series and the better team is gonna win it.

Classic national league failure. You are down 2 in the 9th no out with a guy at first and freaking Pujols at the plate. What do you do? Nothing fancy, just swing away, right? If you are Tony LaRussa, you put the hit and run on, with two strikes, causing Pujols to strike out on ball four and your runner to get gunned down at 2nd. Silly Cardinals. Silly NL baseball, always playing for just that one run.

On a night full of stupid ****ing ideas and decisions, this deserves its own trophy for inaccurate idiocy.

It's not an NL thing, it's a dumb **** La Russa thing.

Giving up 33 more outs over the course of the year when the pitcher's spot comes up 600 times does not make it an NL thing.

bullcrap.

Can you identify a few NL teams who don't play smallball excessively and a few AL teams that do? Sure you can, but it absolutely is an obvious criticism of the National League that they play for one run too often. I don't care if TLR is guilty of it a little more often than his dumb NL managing peers.

Its kind of like making a racial or cultural stereotype joke that is "off" and getting blank stares. If you try a joke about Mexicans owning the financial system, you get confusion. That is NOT the case here, at all. The NL small-ball criticism, highlighted by this crowning achievement of small-ball idiocy, is not going to result in people not knowing what I'm talking about. My criticism is not going to be met with "what, what the hell are you talking about, National League teams always play for the big inning, I don't get it?" You'll never hear that, because the stereotype is true.

I don't claim to be ultra-knowledgable in minute Cardinals and TLR trivia that is interesting only to STL fans and almost no one else. It is a joke that has some basic foundation of truth and may have hit a little too close to home for you. Lighten up.

I hear ya man, I've ****ing pissed also at some of the shitty decisions by TLR in this series. The no double defense in game 2 takes the ****ing cake for me. If the infield was playing where they were suppose to be Kinsler never gets that bloop single.

But this team has shown to play their best with their backs against the wall.
I like our chances to still win this thing.

I enjoy making fun of NL baseball's love of the bunt and hit-and-run at times, too, but NL baseball doesn't explain what we saw tonight in the 9th. No rational manager in any league would have Craig running in the 9th there. Definitely a dumb LaRussa thing.

Well we do have that one year on you guys. :p

And the thing about that Cardinals are built like an AL team.

TLR had an Alzheimer's moment.

Wonder if they can check the dugout phone out for that conversation, heh.

That's a lot of long-winded, erroneous stupidity.

It has no foundation of truth, it's exacerbated because the sacrifice is used so often due to the pitcher's spot.

NL teams sac bunt 33 more times per year on average (71) than AL teams (38).

The team with the greatest amount of sac bunts this year was Florida, with 84. They bunted with their pitcher 42 times.

So, the NL team who sacrificed more than any other had a whopping four more sac bunts by position players than did the average AL team.

There was one good thing from Game 5. This:

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