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mrroandrro 07-01-2013 05:15 PM

OK. My bad.

TambaBerry 07-01-2013 05:28 PM

I don't care just telling you

Hammock Parties 07-01-2013 05:43 PM

Broncos sign Kyle Love and release Chad Rhinehart.

Our DT rotation is now set with Barry Cofield, Michael Brockers, Antonio Johnson, Kyle Love and Fred Evans.

Hammock Parties 07-02-2013 02:40 AM

Broncos sign WR Trindon Holliday and LB Nick Barnett.

Now have LB Thomas Davis up for trade. And Holliday, if you need a returner.

TambaBerry 07-02-2013 02:16 PM

Blockbuster trade:
Fort Wayne gives up
JJ Watt
Curtis Lofton

Get in return from Anchorage
Ahmad Brooks
Lawrence Timmons
Rahim Moore
Jacoby Jones
2013 First round pick

TambaBerry 07-02-2013 02:17 PM

Mark Barron is on the block, need a WR or RB

DJ's left nut 07-02-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9788654)
Blockbuster trade:
Fort Wayne gives up
JJ Watt
Curtis Lofton

Get in return from Anchorage
Ahmad Brooks
Lawrence Timmons
Rahim Moore
Jacoby Jones
2013 First round pick

Wow.

From my chair, that's nowhere near enough for JJ Watt. That's a fair amount of barely above replacement level ballplayer for a true monster of a player. To get a guy that can create that kind of havoc in a 3-4 (thus allowing you to also send linebackers on the blitz) is a huge advantage. It's like playing defense with 12 guys on the field.

Watt is arguably the most valuable guy in the league. He's almost certainly the most valuable non-QB in the league, IMO.

Maybe I'm overvaluing him, but damn, he's one of the few defensive players out there worth calling 'untouchable' to me.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-02-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9788687)
Wow.

From my chair, that's nowhere near enough for JJ Watt. That's a fair amount of barely above replacement level ballplayer for a true monster of a player. To get a guy that can create that kind of havoc in a 3-4 (thus allowing you to also send linebackers on the blitz) is a huge advantage. It's like playing defense with 12 guys on the field.

Watt is arguably the most valuable guy in the league. He's almost certainly the most valuable non-QB in the league, IMO.

Maybe I'm overvaluing him, but damn, he's one of the few defensive players out there worth calling 'untouchable' to me.

And he's 24.

TambaBerry 07-02-2013 04:31 PM

Ok getting a lot of crap for this trade I guess, If this was real life no he would never be traded. In the sandbox world I look at it this way. JJ watt is a beast, nobody was going to give me what he was 100% worth I tried just to much to give up. I feel like I got 95% of what he is worth in upgrading three positions on defense, adding the best return man in the league, also as a 4th wr, and getting the 1st round pick which should become a starter at whatever position I select. I traded Barron for Maclin making my receiver core with Drew Brees as qb even better. Brooks, Timmons, and Moore are top 10 at their positions. So, yes JJ Watt is a beast and I would have loved to have him, but I feel like it was a pretty even trade off.

Hammock Parties 07-02-2013 04:32 PM

****.

anchorage defense is going to be nasty.

Hammock Parties 07-02-2013 04:37 PM

Anchorage has this in their front seven:

Haloti Ngata
JJ Watt
Von Miller
Mario Williams

TambaBerry 07-02-2013 04:39 PM

My starting defense is now
Hatcher, Williams, Coples
Orakpo/Acho, Timmons, Urlacher, Brooks
Claiborne, Culliver, Byrd, Moore.

pretty salty to me even with out JJ watt.

TambaBerry 07-02-2013 04:56 PM

Chris Conte and Kenny Phillips on the trade block message if interested

Hammock Parties 07-02-2013 04:59 PM

Going to be interesting to see if this puts Anchorage over the top now. I was also in the trade bidding for JJ Watt.

I have a feeling this may swing the 1s and 0s in his favor.

DJ's left nut 07-02-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9789007)
Anchorage has this in their front seven:

Haloti Ngata
JJ Watt
Von Miller
Mario Williams

Ngata and Williams fell off a little last year.

That said, Watt and Miller...**** me running, that is terrifying. I didn't realize he already had Miller when I was moaning about the Watt pickup. That's a 12-man defense where one of them is a ****ing fire-breathing destroyer of worlds.

Though I don't remember how the Nickle front operates in a 3-4. I know in a 4-3 you just pick who leaves the field, but in a 3-4, can he have Watt slide in to DE alongside Ngata and then push Miller to the LDE with Williams as the RDE?

I don't think he can. That's why those sub packages would be nice to be able to implement.

I'm just glad I'm not in that division. You get that defense for the foreseeable future and Foster's up and built himself a pretty nice offense as well with Luck, Thomas and Cruz in front of McCoy and CJ2K. He needs help on the O-Line, but sooner or later that's going to be a team to watch as well.

That's the NFC West of Sandbox. 2 powerhouses and a plucky little thing that may amount to something in a year or two (the Rams in this scenario).


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