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DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 9782603)
Please, trying to marginalize my argument because I am new is dumb and lazy.
Not when it's true

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9782611)
For those who want to see an actual breakdown of Donnie Average.
Mcaj22 seems pretty Accurate.
http://www.kffl.com/player/18254/nfl...ery?uyear=2012
An average second receiver is something the Chiefs have lacked for a few seasons.

Sadly, Steve Breaston disappointed the team and the fans.

Ace Gunner 06-28-2013 08:34 PM
really, it is Jamaals' team. He carries it every season. This one won't be different, it's just Reid needs to make it so that he always gets the ball and actually gets some ****ing help.

It's Jamaal's team and this pistol offense is all about Jamaal's skills, so Alex and Bowe just need to help, and they will.

beach tribe 06-28-2013 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9782604)
Mike Wallace was targeted 119 times and had 64 catches and was under 1000 yds., and he was the most sought after free agent on the market. His YAC was slightly better than Avery's at 5.1 and he had a solid veteran throwing to him. Stats can be cherry picked to make any argument.
Even when cherry picked its not even close.
http://www.kffl.com/player/20873/nfl...ace?uyear=2012

BigMeatballDave 06-28-2013 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9782618)
An average second receiver is something the Chiefs have lacked for a few seasons.

Sadly, Steve Breaston disappointed the team and the fans.
Breaston was pretty good his 1st season here.

No idea what happened to him last year.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9782624)
Breaston was pretty good his 1st season here.

No idea what happened to him last year.
He had 74 yards and sucked.

To argue that Avery isn't an upgrade is nonsensical.

Hammock Parties 06-28-2013 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9782624)
Breaston was pretty good his 1st season here.

No idea what happened to him last year.
Scott Pioli and Matt Cassel.

He's going to put up numbers in his next stop.

Hammock Parties 06-28-2013 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9782632)
To argue that Avery isn't an upgrade is nonsensical.
It's possible, but Avery isn't going to get as many looks with Alex Smith at QB, and almost 0 deep looks.

I'd bet anything he has less than 500 yards receiving since he isn't a possession receiver and is drop prone.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9782634)
Scott Pioli and Matt Cassel.

He's going to put up numbers in his next stop.
Since you're Nostradumbass now, would you like to tell us where he's going to sign?

Hammock Parties 06-28-2013 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9782640)
Since you're Nostradumbass now, would you like to tell us where he's going to sign?
I bet the Steelers grab him.

beach tribe 06-28-2013 08:38 PM
Avery was actually targeted 142 times.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9782639)
It's possible, but Avery isn't going to get as many looks with Alex Smith at QB, and almost 0 deep looks.
All he needs is 75 yards to be an upgrade from Breaston.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9782639)
I'd bet anything he has less than 500 yards receiving since he isn't a possession receiver and is drop prone.
If Avery's healthy and has only 500 yards, you're talking about a QB that's throwing for less than 2,000 yards all year.

You sure are making a lot bets this offseason. What's the over/under that you actually honor them?

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9782641)
I bet the Steelers grab him.
Because of Haley? If so, why hasn't he signed yet? He's missed all of mini-camp and OTA's.

And with Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders, I find it highly unlikely that Breaston has more yards than Avery.

LoneWolf 06-28-2013 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9782623)
Even when cherry picked its not even close.
http://www.kffl.com/player/20873/nfl...ace?uyear=2012
Are you ****ing insane. How is that not even close? Targets and catches are almost equal. The only discernible difference is Wallace had more long catches.

Hammock Parties 06-28-2013 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9782646)
Avery was actually targeted 142 times.
112 according to PFF.

People should know this though:

In 2011, the 49ers #2 receiver got only 26 targets.

In 2012, the 49ers #2 receiver got only 55 targets.

Avery's numbers are going way down.


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