Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8022826)

I wouldn't expect Palmer to have to do much against a very bad Chiefs defense

The Chiefs are 22nd vs the run, dead last in points per game giving up

The Raiders OL is tied for 1st in the NFL

They are #2 in rushing as a team and have the #1 rusher in McFadden

Oakland runs the ball more than any other team in the NFL.. They only throw the ball on average about 29 times a game, and about 15 of those are screens or dumpoffs

They'll dumb it down and just come straight at the Chiefs, its really all you need to do, I'd expect to see Bush get half the carries.. it'll be vanilla, not much motion etc.. They'll just beat the Chiefs up on the LOS, the Raiders are just to physical for the Chiefs to handle in the trenches

I'd venture to guess you'll see a couple deep passes to keep the Chiefs on their heels

Wouldn't be surprised if they go deep on the very 1st play

But those dig routes?, curls? naw.. you wont see much of those until Palmer and the WR's get their timing down, more than likely you'll see those plays come into the game plan after the bye which will give Palmer 2 weeks to get his timing down with the WR's

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8023049)

So, if the Chiefs win, are you gonna come back and eat these words, or just make excuses?

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8023120)

If the Raiders win are you gonna admit you were wrong and that you're jealous the Raiders go out and improve their team while your owner is down in the Bahamas sucking a martini on your dime and basically doesnt give a shit whether you win or not?

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 8023529)

It would take the raiders winning 5 superbowls in a row to make me jealous that the raiders gave up 2 firsts for carson ****ing palmer lmao

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8023558)

The Chiefs gave up the 34th pick for Cassel

The Raiders pick will be around 26 that they would have given for Palmer

An 8-10 slot difference

Ya kinda look a little stupid right about now dontcha?

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8023558)

The Chiefs gave up the 34th pick for Cassel

The Raiders pick will be around 26 that they would have given for Palmer

An 8-10 slot difference

Ya kinda look a little stupid right about now dontcha?

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8023660)

you keep forgetting that other pick you guys gave up for palmer

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8023897)

Not really

when you consider the Chiefs had 12 2nd rd picks the last 10 years and only 3 of them have stuck.. and thats only because they havent reached their 3rd year which by then they get the axe for suckage anyways

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8024015)

The Chiefs drafting has nothing to do with how stupid that trade was. Nothing.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8023637)

Why do Raider fans like to put themselves in the NFL elite? You are picking far closer to 18 than you are 26.

You are also failing to acknowledge that you also at worst are giving up a 2nd rounder on top of that pick.

You carry on like this is a slam dunk of a trade. Palmer's arm strength and accuracy has declined each year. You think that he's going to come in, be in sync with the playbook and the receivers in 1-2 weeks?

If Carson Palmer takes the customary 4 weeks to get up to speed with the Raiders playbook, like the length of a preseason, then the Raiders have zero chance at the post-season this year.