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Chris Meck 05-04-2025 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18055240)
They put Suamataia out there on opening day, with no help.

The season is 4 months away.

Simmons will be the day 1 starter for us at left tackle, unless health is an issue.

Simmons - Moore
Suamataia - Caliendo/Cooper
Humphrey - Hunter
Smith - Hanson
Taylor - Morris - Pole
I think so, too.

Bump 05-04-2025 07:20 PM
unless Simmons is truly at 100% health then Moore should start the season. We need to see what he's getting $15 m's for.

BossChief 05-04-2025 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 18055259)
unless Simmons is truly at 100% health then Moore should start the season. We need to see what he's getting $15 m's for.
Moore was given his $ to ensure Mahomes is protected and that the team has a certain level of play at the position that’s acceptable. He’s the Alex Smith for them at LT.

They were serious about fixing LT and got the top OT. After that, they drafted the guy they wanted, too. One with special upside.

New World Order 05-04-2025 10:30 PM
Unless Moore is really holding it down, I think we see Simmons as our starting LT mid-season.

dlphg9 05-04-2025 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 18055259)
unless Simmons is truly at 100% health then Moore should start the season. We need to see what he's getting $15 m's for.
He's getting paid $15 mil, because they didn't think there was a chance that Simmons or a legit LT prosepct would fall to them and so they signed Moore to play LT.

Bump 05-05-2025 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18055366)
Moore was given his $ to ensure Mahomes is protected and that the team has a certain level of play at the position that’s acceptable. He’s the Alex Smith for them at LT.

They were serious about fixing LT and got the top OT. After that, they drafted the guy they wanted, too. One with special upside.
I'm mostly trying to say don't rush Simmons. If he's healthy and ready to go and is obviously the guy who should be starting then **** ya. But he needs to be healthy because we would really like it if he's our LT for the next decade.

tyton75 05-05-2025 08:25 AM
Since we are all guessing here:

My guess is that Simmons starts by game 4-6.. gives us time to evaluate Moore while getting Simmons up to speed and a bit more time to gain strength and confidence.

The only outlier is if Simmons comes into camp and is just undeniable. Then Simmons starts game 1

Deberg_1990 05-05-2025 08:27 AM
Creed and Tre Smith started day 1 if I remember correctly?

saphojunkie 05-05-2025 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18055211)
No, there's a misunderstanding about this injury.

It's not that it takes a long time to heal. It doesn't. He should be essentially healed right now, and a bunch more time isn't going to do anything either way in regards to that. Play or not play, that's not going to matter in regards to the injury and his 'health'.

The question in regards to this injury is whether or not he'll ever be able to move, or have the same explosion and strength in that knee ever again. It won't HURT or anything, it just won't act the same-this is what the higher percentage of people who have this injury deal with. And if THAT is the case, we need to know as soon as possible, because we don't have an NFL LT here other than Moore. IF that's the case.

I don't want to have a big fat question mark next April.

and taking a year off does nothing positive for the kid. He'll either be healthy or not. He should be 'healed'. That's not the same thing as 'like he was prior to the injury'.

And THAT is what we need to know, and ASAP.
Bro he injured it in October. It can take a full 12 months to heal. What are you talking about? You’re acting as though you are the attending surgeon and are VERY sure that his particular injury should be 100% healed. This is some real talking out of your ass.

If you were an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in patellar repair, you STILL couldn’t really give a time line without seeing his actual case.

saphojunkie 05-05-2025 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18055366)
Moore was given his $ to ensure Mahomes is protected and that the team has a certain level of play at the position that’s acceptable. He’s the Alex Smith for them at LT.

They were serious about fixing LT and got the top OT. After that, they drafted the guy they wanted, too. One with special upside.
It seems to me they never like to go into a draft with a gaping hole in the roster.

Moore can: cover LT while Simmons gets up to speed. Swing tackle after, and potentially take over RT when Juwan Taylor leaves.

Chris Meck 05-05-2025 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 18055480)
Bro he injured it in October. It can take a full 12 months to heal. What are you talking about? You’re acting as though you are the attending surgeon and are VERY sure that his particular injury should be 100% healed. This is some real talking out of your ass.

If you were an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in patellar repair, you STILL couldn’t really give a time line without seeing his actual case.
Why don't you go look it up? I did. I see 'return to play ' at 24 weeks.

So you can continue to be a dick if you want, but I had a reason for my guess.

O.city 05-05-2025 08:46 AM
He's still rehabbing at rookie mini camp it seems.

I'd imagine unless he's a full go by the start of TC, he's not gonna play this year.

Once they set the OL, it'll be the way it is. Andy doesn't change unless......catastrophe.

chiefzilla1501 05-05-2025 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18055219)
Right.

But the timeline for 'healing' from this surgery is pretty much up. Now, he's got to get the strength back and what have you. And Andy and Veach have indicated they expect he'll be participating in training camp.

But there's no reason for any 'red shirt year'. That does nothing. There's zero benefit. And, in fact, is a detriment for the team long-term because we still may not know if we have a Left Tackle moving forward at season's end.

All just my opinion.
Eh, we have options. Not like it’s ideal but Kingsley and Wanya can still back up. We got burned too badly by pushing humphries too fast. I’d really like to see how a patella injury can heal with the additional time since it feels like most cases are a rush to get someone back. Although we see theoretical timelines we also seem to hear that there’s benefit to giving it extra time to set.

We’ve been so bad at LT yet we can still win regular season games with it. No reason to rush. Let’s get this one as right as possible and not rush him a minute sooner to a safe return timeline.

Mr. Kotter 05-05-2025 09:17 AM
If Andy says he’ll be ready for training, camp, barring any setbacks… He’ll be ready for training camp. I don’t know why some here continue to insist that they are medical experts, when Andy has a lot more insider info than any of us..

TwistedChief 05-05-2025 10:18 AM
Nick Jacobs attended rookie minicamp and was impressed by the movement that he saw.

(HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN ANYTHING.)

But I'd rather get reports that he looks fluid and comfortable and the team isn't hiding him than something more clouded. It's at least a small step in the right direction.


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